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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Why do you think the negatives are reported later than the positives? Are you seeing that somewhere or are you just assuming they are eventually reported?
    Because looking at historical data, usually the day after no tests are reported, twice as many tests are reported. Then the following days it regresses to the mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    Because looking at historical data, usually the day after no tests are reported, twice as many tests are reported. Then the following days it regresses to the mean.
    I get that there are days that have dumps of prior tests. But why do you think they include just the negatives from days where positives were already reported? It doesn't seem far fetched to me that that would happen. I could see labs reporting positives as they come up, and then doing a weekly dump of the rest. But I wouldn't just assume that happens. Has MDS said that's what happening? Or do you see something in the data to suggest it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    I get that there are days that have dumps of prior tests. But why do you think they include just the negatives from days where positives were already reported? It doesn't seem far fetched to me that that would happen. I could see labs reporting positives as they come up, and then doing a weekly dump of the rest. But I wouldn't just assume that happens. Has MDS said that's what happening? Or do you see something in the data to suggest it?
    It just seems the most plausible explanation given that most weeks look something like this:

    Monday: 0 tests reported
    Tuesday: 10000 tests reported
    Wednesday-Sunday: 5000 tests reported

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    It just seems the most plausible explanation given that most weeks look something like this:

    Monday: 0 tests reported
    Tuesday: 10000 tests reported
    Wednesday-Sunday: 5000 tests reported
    But why do you think they are just reporting the negatives? It seems at least as plausible that some clinics report positives but don't report negatives. Some clinics either don't report everyday, or alternatively the MSDH only incporates those labs tests into the data certain days. Unless the data also shows the positive test rate going from 100%, to 5% to 15% or some pattern like that, it seems just as plausible that the negative tests from some clinics just aren't being reported. Not that they are being reported on different days from the positive tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    But why do you think they are just reporting the negatives? It seems at least as plausible that some clinics report positives but don't report negatives. Some clinics either don't report everyday, or alternatively the MSDH only incporates those labs tests into the data certain days. Unless the data also shows the positive test rate going from 100%, to 5% to 15% or some pattern like that, it seems just as plausible that the negative tests from some clinics just aren't being reported. Not that they are being reported on different days from the positive tests.
    MSDH just doesn't update its test numbers some days, usually on weekends.

    I don't think it's just as plausible that 100% of our cases reported the past two days came only from clinics that don't report negatives and also today we suddenly have 3x as many tests reported for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    MSDH just doesn't update its test numbers some days, usually on weekends.

    I don't think it's just as plausible that 100% of our cases reported the past two days came only from clinics that don't report negatives and also today we suddenly have 3x as many tests reported for no reason.
    No doubt that shouldn't be happening anymore. Test number lag. Test results lag. Mortality rate lags. We are constantly looking at the picture as it was 3 days - 2 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    MSDH just doesn't update its test numbers some days, usually on weekends.

    I don't think it's just as plausible that 100% of our cases reported the past two days came only from clinics that don't report negatives and also today we suddenly have 3x as many tests reported for no reason.
    Where are you looking to see the cases? Have you just kept up the last few days? Or is there a graph or chart for tests per day that I am missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Where are you looking to see the cases? Have you just kept up the last few days? Or is there a graph or chart for tests per day that I am missing?
    Actually, I'm wrong. They didn't update tests again today. I got confused about Total (PCR + Antibody) and PCR tests (there's about a 16k difference).

    Today: https://covidtracking.com/screenshot...804-182114.png
    July 31: https://covidtracking.com/screenshot...801-181637.png

    To answer your question, you can see historical data and a chart of new tests here: https://covidtracking.com/data/state/mississippi

    I agree that 7 day average positivity % will be out of whack until they dump tests, but I expect it to average out by the end of the week.
    Last edited by hacker; 08-04-2020 at 07:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    It just seems the most plausible explanation given that most weeks look something like this:

    Monday: 0 tests reported
    Tuesday: 10000 tests reported
    Wednesday-Sunday: 5000 tests reported
    Today's numbers have been reported.

    This week:

    Sunday: 0 tests reported
    Monday: 0 tests reported
    Today: 15000 tests reported

    We average around 5000 tests a day. 1000 of those positive. 20% positivity rate. Everything checks out.

    (liberal use of rounding in calculations to help make my point)

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