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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Sadly, those projections are "best case" scenarios (according to the models) if we do our very best, in terms of mitigation.
    Yep, apparently the US could possibly have 1.5 million deaths from this as worst case scenario. Somehow, with our healthcare system and resources we are going to be 100x worse off than any other country in the world and about 20x's worse the entire rest of the world combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yep, apparently the US could possibly have 1.5 million deaths from this as worst case scenario. Somehow, with our healthcare system and resources we are going to be 100x worse off than any other country in the world and about 20x's worse the entire rest of the world combined.
    Total cases is a bad way to compare. Cases per/capita is better, but even then it's dependent on how many get tested and if the numbers are fudged. I don't believe the numbers from China or India. I think the Chinese are just lying. Most of the other countries even close to our size have very poor health systems and are only testinga very small fraction of the population

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yep, apparently the US could possibly have 1.5 million deaths from this as worst case scenario. Somehow, with our healthcare system and resources we are going to be 100x worse off than any other country in the world and about 20x's worse the entire rest of the world combined.
    1. We have worse access to healthcare, especially in rural areas, than most of the other developed countries.

    2. We are doing the least, behavior wise, to curb the growth. It will keep getting worse and worse until we have nationwide shelter in place and mass testing.
    WHY IS EVERYONE YELLING?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Yep, apparently the US could possibly have 1.5 million deaths from this as worst case scenario. Somehow, with our healthcare system and resources we are going to be 100x worse off than any other country in the world and about 20x's worse the entire rest of the world combined.
    The healthcare system is not at fault here. No one would, or could, afford to keep up a healthcare system that had enough ICU beds, ventilators and healthcare workers to treat 2% of the population over a couple of months.

    Our slow response, Dumbass politicians saying Old people want to die (thanks TX Lt Governor), and "ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do" attitude kept it spreading for weeks longer than anyone else so far.

    18 states, including Florida, have not announced lockdowns to prevent the spread...

    The ONLY country proven to have contained the outbreak so far is South Korea. They tested ~0.7% of their population, and did strict isolation of those infected and quarantine of those in contact with anyone infected. And it still took a month, and a spread to ~10,000 cases to turn the tide...

    For the US to test that many people, is 2.5 million tests. They started this testing when they had 30 cases. We have almost 200,000, and have not begun anything close to that level of containment. And Therefore need to test closer to 10% of the population to track and trace. That's ~36 million tests, or 36x what we have done so far.... We have ramped up, so far to ~100,000 tests per day.... Having a blood antibody test will help speed this up.


    This is what our month delay cost us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SheltonChoked View Post
    The healthcare system is not at fault here. No one would, or could, afford to keep up a healthcare system that had enough ICU beds, ventilators and healthcare workers to treat 2% of the population over a couple of months.

    Our slow response, Dumbass politicians saying Old people want to die (thanks TX Lt Governor), and "ain't nobody gonna tell me what to do" attitude kept it spreading for weeks longer than anyone else so far.

    18 states, including Florida, have not announced lockdowns to prevent the spread...

    The ONLY country proven to have contained the outbreak so far is South Korea. They tested ~0.7% of their population, and did strict isolation of those infected and quarantine of those in contact with anyone infected. And it still took a month, and a spread to ~10,000 cases to turn the tide...

    For the US to test that many people, is 2.5 million tests. They started this testing when they had 30 cases. We have almost 200,000, and have not begun anything close to that level of containment. And Therefore need to test closer to 10% of the population to track and trace. That's ~36 million tests, or 36x what we have done so far.... We have ramped up, so far to ~100,000 tests per day.... Having a blood antibody test will help speed this up.


    This is what our month delay cost us.
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.
    Yep, it's gonna run it's course. I talked to a head surgeon at forrest general on sunday and he reiterated this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg View Post
    Some of you still haven't figured out that none of this is to PREVENT the spread of it. Not even the people pushing it are saying that. They still expect the number of people that get it to be about the same no matter what we do. What they are doing is to try to damp down the number that have at any one time.
    My bad, Replace "Prevent" with "Reduce the R0 to close to 1 by reducing the social contact". Silly me for not typing that out....

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