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Originally Posted by
Coach34
You cant put a certain numbers of wins out there and say floor.
The standard at State in baseball is make the NCAA's with the expectation of advancement to a Super or better more often than not.
Lemon is on his 3rd strike.
Should JoMo have gotten a "3rd strike"?
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Should JoMo have gotten a "3rd strike"?
No. His off the field issues cost him his job
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
We fired JoMo after 2 bowl seasons because it was obvious the program was trending down.
Based on strictly coaching- JoMo was getting another year in spite of the off field issues. Then the fight happened. Then team hotel wreaked of weed. Then we played like ass in the bowl game.
Only then was he let go
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Based on strictly coaching- JoMo was getting another year in spite of the off field issues. Then the fight happened. Then team hotel wreaked of weed. Then we played like ass in the bowl game.
Only then was he let go
Only then we had the EXCUSE to let him go; but 99% of the fan base -including yourself- wanted him fired before the hotel incident.
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Only then we had the EXCUSE to let him go; but 99% of the fan base -including yourself- wanted him fired before the hotel incident.
I wanted him gone after he lost to Mullen. But he also didn’t have a Natty on his belt either. That’s why Lemon got a 3rd strike
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I wanted him gone after he lost to Mullen. But he also didn’t have a Natty on his belt either. That’s why Lemon got a 3rd strike
This is the answer. If we had lost to Vandy in a 15 inning game 3, Lemonis is fired last year. Crossing the finish line gave him an extra get out of jail free card. He used it last year so now it is crap or get off the pot.
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If Moorhead won the College Football Playoff in 2018, he likely gets a very long leash after that. Can you imagine:
2018 - National Title
2019 - 6-7 oops
2020 - COVID year, nothing matters
2021 - probably suck but he gets another year
2022 - second straight non-bowl year, but the national title probably gets him one more
2023 - we fire him midseason and still say "thanks for the memories"
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Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Should JoMo have gotten a "3rd strike"?
This is your biggest issue and why you don't get it. You compare baseball coaching to football coaching. You can't do that because it's a completely different field. Baseball has a completely different recruiting cycle than football. Baseball coaches have to go through a full season basically without any of their recruits. In football you can have some of your own players in year one. Baseball coaches prefer stability rather than prestige from coaching in the SEC and getting a massive contract before settling down. That's why you see coaches stay at mid majors forever sometimes- especially if they are well liked and comfortable.
That's why MSU is handling Lemonis differently than they handled Moorhead. Because they actually understand the difference.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If Moorhead won the College Football Playoff in 2018, he likely gets a very long leash after that. Can you imagine:
2018 - National Title
2019 - 6-7 oops
2020 - COVID year, nothing matters
2021 - probably suck but he gets another year
2022 - second straight non-bowl year, but the national title probably gets him one more
2023 - we fire him midseason and still say "thanks for the memories"
This is a good comparison to our situation to Lemonis but put in football terms.
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And just like that, we're up to #108. Nice week so far, so let's finish it strong
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It really is good seeing the winning streak, been a while and things are looking better. Tough weak ahead but a good test. Need to take the series today also.
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Just as an update to this, I'm seeing our RPI as 88 heading into the week.
It's still too early for that stuff but for those clamoring about it, there you have it. LSU is #33.
Also, our SOS is better than Tennessee, Auburn, and Kentucky. So while we weren't exactly playing the best competition, our SOS is in the Top 50% in all of college baseball.
As another fun fact, our pitching staff is 4th in the country in K/BB ratio with just over 4. Hard to do anything but overwhelmingly praise Parker thus far for what he's done.
Last edited by MetEdDawg; 03-11-2024 at 06:20 AM.
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May I add that I'm like Gomer Pile "Surprise Surprise Surprise"! But I'm very happy!
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Just as an update to this, I'm seeing our RPI as 88 heading into the week.
It's still too early for that stuff but for those clamoring about it, there you have it. LSU is #33.
Also, our SOS is better than Tennessee, Auburn, and Kentucky. So while we weren't exactly playing the best competition, our SOS is in the Top 50% in all of college baseball.
As another fun fact, our pitching staff is 4th in the country in K/BB ratio with just over 4. Hard to do anything but overwhelmingly praise Parker thus far for what he's done.
Yeah we ain't got the worst SEC OOC schedule. Everyone plays bad teams and loses to them. Our pitching has been post season good and our bats seem to be waking up a little too. I' cautiously optimistic but still from Missouri- - show me these next two weeks.
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Yeah we ain't got the worst SEC OOC schedule. Everyone plays bad teams and loses to them. Our pitching has been post season good and our bats seem to be waking up a little too. I' cautiously optimistic but still from Missouri- - show me these next two weeks.
100%!
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I'm literally shocked no one has come onto this board and posted that Austin Peay was beaten yesterday by Auburn by the score of 24-5.........
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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That's....uh....quite the jump in one week....
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
I'm literally shocked no one has come onto this board and posted that Austin Peay was beaten yesterday by Auburn by the score of 24-5.........
I'm shocked someone didn't mentioned AP had a good chance to win the series w auburn.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I'm shocked someone didn't mentioned AP had a good chance to win the series w auburn.
Should have won it. Blew Game 1
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
I'm shocked someone didn't mentioned AP had a good chance to win the series w auburn.
It's because nobody believes small schools can actually have good baseball teams, lol. Even though year after year these so called no names schools win and can win big. Baseball is different . Imagine if in baseball you could have your best hitter just go up and hit anytime you wanted to give "him the ball" or you best pitcher could pitch every game. It's the ultimate team sport where your least player or pitcher can be a hero! It's why I love the game so much! You don't have to be 6'4" 240 beast of an athlete to compete and be successful.
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