Next years pitching rotation

[Coach34]

Well- college just isnt for everyone. Not to mention MLB is willing to throw millions at some of these guys out of Hs. I preferred the old rule of straight out of HS or 3 years college.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Well- college just isnt for everyone. Not to mention MLB is willing to throw millions at some of these guys out of Hs. I preferred the old rule of straight out of HS or 3 years college.

Agreed. If a kid wants to go straight out of high school more power to him. Will he succeed? Probably not. Especially at the NFL and NBA level. But they're 18 years old and if a kid can go straight out of a high school and get a job in the real world then an athlete should be able to do the same IMO. It should be their decision, but if they do come to college then they need to stay at the very least two years.

[99jc]

Agreed. If a kid wants to go straight out of high school more power to him. Will he succeed? Probably not. Especially at the NFL and NBA level. But they're 18 years old and if a kid can go straight out of a high school and get a job in the real world then an athlete should be able to do the same IMO. It should be their decision, but if they do come to college then they need to stay at the very least two years.

Why 2 years in college, its not a legal commitment a person should be able to go pro whenever they want! But nothing in this world makes sense anymore.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why 2 years in college, its not a legal commitment a person should be able to go pro whenever they want! But nothing in this world makes sense anymore.

Because you are getting a scholarship to go to school. I'm sure the programs would want some assurance that they're not just getting a rental or that at the first sign they don't get their way then they're going to leave the team.

[R2Dawg]

Because you are getting a scholarship to go to school. I'm sure the programs would want some assurance that they're not just getting a rental or that at the first sign they don't get their way then they're going to leave the team.

So you realize the transfer portal and one year deals these days (another progressive idea) the rental is all there is right? First sign they don't get their way they are gone, ha, ha. You just described the entire culture and rules today.

[Really Clark?]

Why 2 years in college, its not a legal commitment a person should be able to go pro whenever they want! But nothing in this world makes sense anymore.

You do understand that it?s the pro leagues and their player unions who make these legal contracts concerning draft eligibility, correct? It?s been that way for a very long time.

[The Federalist Engineer]

You do understand that it?s the pro leagues and their player unions who make these legal contracts concerning draft eligibility, correct? It?s been that way for a very long time.

99jc makes a sound Liberty oriented argument.

Say an engineering student is really great and Space X wants him as a freshman. He can interview and even go work. No big deal, it’s his private business.

Older engineers cant decide that he is “too young” or must get some fictional certificate, he may even work at Space X and the switch to Lockheed or Boeing. No restrictions. The companies may not conspire to say, we only hire people after engineering grad school.

Only in American sports is conclusion the norm. If properly challenged, it’s a black and white property right issue. My talent is my private property to utilize.

[Coach34]

99jc makes a sound Liberty oriented argument.

Say an engineering student is really great and Space X wants him as a freshman. He can interview and even go work. No big deal, it’s his private business.

Older engineers cant decide that he is “too young” or must get some fictional certificate, he may even work at Space X and the switch to Lockheed or Boeing. No restrictions. The companies may not conspire to say, we only hire people after engineering grad school.

Only in American sports is conclusion the norm. If properly challenged, it’s a black and white property right issue. My talent is my private property to utilize.

Sports isn’t real life tho- that’s why it can’t be compared. It’s entertainment. Just like musicians and actors. They are entertainers

[HoopsDawg]

99jc makes a sound Liberty oriented argument.

Say an engineering student is really great and Space X wants him as a freshman. He can interview and even go work. No big deal, it’s his private business.

Older engineers cant decide that he is “too young” or must get some fictional certificate, he may even work at Space X and the switch to Lockheed or Boeing. No restrictions. The companies may not conspire to say, we only hire people after engineering grad school.

Only in American sports is conclusion the norm. If properly challenged, it’s a black and white property right issue. My talent is my private property to utilize.

You could be a talented surgeon, but you still have to go to medical school.

[99jc]

You could be a talented surgeon, but you still have to go to medical school.

A surgeon and a kid who plays with balls has no comparison....come on man!

[Really Clark?]

99jc makes a sound Liberty oriented argument.

Say an engineering student is really great and Space X wants him as a freshman. He can interview and even go work. No big deal, it’s his private business.

Older engineers cant decide that he is “too young” or must get some fictional certificate, he may even work at Space X and the switch to Lockheed or Boeing. No restrictions. The companies may not conspire to say, we only hire people after engineering grad school.

Only in American sports is conclusion the norm. If properly challenged, it’s a black and white property right issue. My talent is my private property to utilize.

That wasn’t really what he was arguing though. The individual can’t just declare himself a Professional and go do whatever. Even your example doesn’t hold up with a lot of professional careers. There are many that require that the individual met certain criteria to become a Professional. You can’t go 2 years of undergrad and declare yourself a Doctor, Lawyer, CPA, even engineers. He may be able to act like an engineer for a certain company and do well for what they need, but a lot of states require him to be licensed and with that license he has to have a degree to work in that state as an engineer. There are many legal oversights to becoming a professional in many many careers.

[The Federalist Engineer]

That wasn’t really what he was arguing though. The individual can’t just declare himself a Professional and go do whatever. Even your example doesn’t hold up with a lot of professional careers. There are many that require that the individual met certain criteria to become a Professional. You can’t go 2 years of undergrad and declare yourself a Doctor, Lawyer, CPA, even engineers. He may be able to act like an engineer for a certain company and do well for what they need, but a lot of states require him to be licensed and with that license he has to have a degree to work in that state as an engineer. There are many legal oversights to becoming a professional in many many careers.

A test of skill is still liberty, not perfect but in the best interest of the profession and public. Like "show me that you understand mechanics, GAAP, thermodynamics, or structures".

What is not liberty is that you may not take the test unless you are 24-years-old, if the current people employed (the Guild) arbitrarily decide that only 8 people per year may pass, or if the currently employed (the Guild) want to tell private businesses who they may hire.