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    We went 3 days a week from 8-11am in June and then 4 days a week in July. As is the case with most schools- the ones that really need the conditioning and workouts hardly showed up.
    So playing football and having an 8-5 summer job are basically incompatible? That sucks. I suspect a job would benefit a lot of kids more than playing football, and doing both seems better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    So playing football and having an 8-5 summer job are basically incompatible? That sucks. I suspect a job would benefit a lot of kids more than playing football, and doing both seems better.
    Well year round schooling is about to those summer jobs,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    So playing football and having an 8-5 summer job are basically incompatible? That sucks. I suspect a job would benefit a lot of kids more than playing football, and doing both seems better.
    hahaha- you serious Clark? A very small percentage of kids would get an 8-5 job even if someone would hire them. Nor would their parents make them altho some do work part-time. Our biggest problem is the kids staying up till 4-5am playing XBox online against their friends and then being too sleepy to come to workout.

    That doesnt even include the kids playing 7 on 7 in the summer, traveling around the city, state, and other states....summer basketball for about 50 games 3-4 days a week, and your baseball players playing 60 games a summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    hahaha- you serious Clark? A very small percentage of kids would get an 8-5 job even if someone would hire them. Nor would their parents make them altho some do work part-time. Our biggest problem is the kids staying up till 4-5am playing XBox online against their friends and then being too sleepy to come to workout.

    That doesnt even include the kids playing 7 on 7 in the summer, traveling around the city, state, and other states....summer basketball for about 50 games 3-4 days a week, and your baseball players playing 60 games a summer.

    Kids need to be kids. They have the rest of their life to be a worker bee to pay the government tax coffers so Pelosi can fly to the Far East to start a war on a whim
    Our summer football conditioning and lifting was always at night in the 80's. Because everyone had a summer job during the day (usually an outdoor job). After conditioning you went home and went to bed. Two-a-day practices were usually 7-10 AM and 6-9 PM starting the first week in August. As a sophomore I was second string tailback so I had to scrimmage against first team defense. First week of full pads I carried the ball over 150 times in 5 days, all full contact, tackle to the ground against a mostly senior defense. I thought I would die. After 3 weeks of practice I became the starting strong safety, which meant no more scout team tailback. Our coach liked salt pills and said water would make you cramp up.

    Edited to add: We practiced on the baseball outfield. And it didn't matter if it rained. I wasn't a baseball player, but I'm sure the outfielders got some bad hops from all the divots caused during 4 months of football practice. And the ground was hard as a rock with very little grass after about 1 week. Nobody watered a field back then like they do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    hahaha- you serious Clark? A very small percentage of kids would get an 8-5 job even if someone would hire them.
    Still lots of business owners that would love to hire somebody that will regularly show up for work for $12 an hour, even if it's just for the summer. And something like 30% of teenages still work. Even if 8-5 is not the norm, I would assume a lot of those jobs cross over some time between 8am and 11am. Looking back, I will say most jobs my friends worked were probably either early in and early out or late in and still out by 6, but late would have been more like 10am, not 1pm.


    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Nor would their parents make them altho some do work part-time. Our biggest problem is the kids staying up till 4-5am playing XBox online against their friends and then being too sleepy to come to workout.

    That doesnt even include the kids playing 7 on 7 in the summer, traveling around the city, state, and other states....summer basketball for about 50 games 3-4 days a week, and your baseball players playing 60 games a summer.

    Kids need to be kids. They have the rest of their life to be a worker bee to pay the government tax coffers so Pelosi can fly to the Far East to start a war on a whim
    Working part time in high school seems more like kids being kids than playing travel sports year round. It was fun working and then going out and having a little money to spend. I enjoyed playing sports but would not have wanted to spend every weekend driving and playing baseball in a different place but not really getting to enjoy it. And again, working is probably going to help them develop more than having a set time to do workouts or collecting a few dozen plastic "championship" rings. For the really affluent families, sure, do whatever. But if you aren't financially independent, why not have your kids work 15-20 hours a week and have their own spending money? When I was in high school, I would not have felt good about not working at all in the summer knowing that my parents were somewhat stressed about money. Surely a lot of these high school players are in the same position.

    Not exactly related to the question about football, but I see families spending the equivalent of college tuition on travel ball and private lessons when they probably don't even have paid for cars. I think if I were their kids I'd probably rather have college paid for than spend 15 different weekends in the comfort inn on whatever interstate exchange is closest to the ball fields that particular weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    Still lots of business owners that would love to hire somebody that will regularly show up for work for $12 an hour, even if it's just for the summer. And something like 30% of teenages still work. Even if 8-5 is not the norm, I would assume a lot of those jobs cross over some time between 8am and 11am. Looking back, I will say most jobs my friends worked were probably either early in and early out or late in and still out by 6, but late would have been more like 10am, not 1pm.


    Working part time in high school seems more like kids being kids than playing travel sports year round. It was fun working and then going out and having a little money to spend. I enjoyed playing sports but would not have wanted to spend every weekend driving and playing baseball in a different place but not really getting to enjoy it. And again, working is probably going to help them develop more than having a set time to do workouts or collecting a few dozen plastic "championship" rings. For the really affluent families, sure, do whatever. But if you aren't financially independent, why not have your kids work 15-20 hours a week and have their own spending money? When I was in high school, I would not have felt good about not working at all in the summer knowing that my parents were somewhat stressed about money. Surely a lot of these high school players are in the same position.

    Not exactly related to the question about football, but I see families spending the equivalent of college tuition on travel ball and private lessons when they probably don't even have paid for cars. I think if I were their kids I'd probably rather have college paid for than spend 15 different weekends in the comfort inn on whatever interstate exchange is closest to the ball fields that particular weekend.
    I just was raised differently. My “summer job” was playing baseball. We played about 60 games in the summer of legion ball. And that’s in the mid-80’s. I was not allowed to work until the summer after I graduated HS. It paid off as my 1st 2 years of college were free thanks to my ACT score and a baseball scholly.
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