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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I don't agree.

    Motivation isn't an issue for us and don't see much upside in their offense.
    they're more motivated than us. It's that simple. They're playing hard for Pittman.

    Their offense isn't anything special, but it's better than our's. Disagree all you want. Those are the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    they're more motivated than us. It's that simple. They're playing hard for Pittman.

    Their offense isn't anything special, but it's better than our's. Disagree all you want. Those are the facts.
    You don't need a special offense to outperform what we are doing. A standard balanced offense is much harder to stop than what we are currently doing. We have a one dimensional offense that seemingly can't defeat one specific type of defense that everyone is going to run against us. Until that changes we are stuck in a bad way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    You don't need a special offense to outperform what we are doing. A standard balanced offense is much harder to stop than what we are currently doing. We have a one dimensional offense that seemingly can't defeat one specific type of defense that everyone is going to run against us. Until that changes we are stuck in a bad way.
    Stop looking 2 inches in front of your face

    Leach's offense will give us ceiling we've never had. Isn't that worth a little bit of a wait?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Stop looking 2 inches in front of your face

    Leach's offense will give us ceiling we've never had. Isn't that worth a little bit of a wait?
    I'm not even talking about what the Leach offense is capable of being 2 or 3 years now with a different set of players and longer to implement the system. I'm talking about why we are ineffective as we sit here today on October 18th, 2020 and Arkansas is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I'm not even talking about what the Leach offense is capable of being 2 or 3 years now with a different set of players and longer to implement the system. I'm talking about why we are ineffective as we sit here today on October 18th, 2020 and Arkansas is not.
    But we've explained that. We're making the most dramatic scheme change in college football while they aren't.

    It's the same question every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    But we've explained that. We're making the most dramatic scheme change in college football while they aren't.

    It's the same question every day.
    Yep we are going from the offense of today, which was poorly coached, to the offense we ran in the backyard when we were kids. Johnny go long Eddie go to the tree I got 10 Mississippis to find you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Yep we are going from the offense of today, which was poorly coached, to the offense we ran in the backyard when we were kids. Johnny go long Eddie go to the tree I got 10 Mississippis to find you.
    Lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    But we've explained that. We're making the most dramatic scheme change in college football while they aren't.

    It's the same question every day.
    True, but even in this transition period the offense looked pretty dang good against a standard defense playing mostly man. Problem is we won't see that defense ever again until we solve the 3-8 puzzle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    True, but even in this transition period the offense looked pretty dang good against a standard defense playing mostly man. Problem is we won't see that defense ever again until we solve the 3-8 puzzle.
    And we'll solve it soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I'm not even talking about what the Leach offense is capable of being 2 or 3 years now with a different set of players and longer to implement the system. I'm talking about why we are ineffective as we sit here today on October 18th, 2020 and Arkansas is not.
    Because we will either not or we can not block three defensive linemen.

    Heck, even on the blocked punt three men broke through the line and two and a half went through the next three blockers. We do not block anyone.

    BTW id we block very well last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Because we will either not or we can not block three defensive linemen.

    Heck, even on the blocked punt three men broke through the line and two and a half went through the next three blockers. We do not block anyone.

    BTW id we block very well last year?
    That blocked punt and the near absence of blocking by our players was a thing to behold. It seemed like the back three didn't even move and/or did not see aTm's players headed that way. Which sounds as ridiculous as it looked on the television.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Because we will either not or we can not block three defensive linemen.

    Heck, even on the blocked punt three men broke through the line and two and a half went through the next three blockers. We do not block anyone.

    BTW id we block very well last year?
    I say again though that the OL we have now have never played in a system like this with the wide splits or been asked to pass protect 90% of the time. Blocking will get better no doubt with more training in the system and practicing pass pro all the time, the question is how much better. Leach and company will be recruiting OL going forward focused on pass protection skills whereas in the past, run blocking was as important if not more important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I say again though that the OL we have now have never played in a system like this with the wide splits or been asked to pass protect 90% of the time. Blocking will get better no doubt with more training in the system and practicing pass pro all the time, the question is how much better. Leach and company will be recruiting OL going forward focused on pass protection skills whereas in the past, run blocking was as important if not more important.
    You're right. And I think the younger guys will become more and more accustomed to it over the years as they develop. We're playing a few really young guys right now like Cross.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Stop looking 2 inches in front of your face

    Leach's offense will give us ceiling we've never had. Isn't that worth a little bit of a wait?
    I finally agree with Gun on something. If we ever get the personnel to run this thing, it is one that could beat Bama. The question is, can Leach build it? And in a decent amount of time, given we are paying him $5M. It starts up front, we have a train wreck at OL. And they gave up, 2 weeks in a row. And if we manage to get the Offense together, by then, Arnett will be gone and Defense may not be half as good. It sucks that we can't ever seem to put it all together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Stop looking 2 inches in front of your face

    Leach's offense will give us ceiling we've never had. Isn't that worth a little bit of a wait?
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    they're more motivated than us. It's that simple.
    This may be the most ridiculous statement of the day. It'll be tough to beat this one
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    This may be the most ridiculous statement of the day. It'll be tough to beat this one
    Says the guy who makes ridiculous statements on a daily basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Says the guy who makes ridiculous statements on a daily basis.
    Says the guy who made a statement that completely disqualified him from being able to participate in a quality sports's conversation. You basically held a sign up that said you were clueless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Says the guy who made a statement that completely disqualified him from being able to participate in a quality sports's conversation. You basically held a sign up that said you were clueless.
    Lol, you want to call me clueless? Gun, your opinion on a subject can change 7 times in a span of a day. You're the most bipolar poster on both Gene's Page and this one. You're in a constant cycle of unrealistic optimism, followed by pessimism when you realize you were too high, followed by the building of hope, and then the cycle repeats. I've seen you go through this many times.

    I said that Arkansas is more motivated than us. You, my friend, are the one that is clueless if you can't see that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOdawg1 View Post
    Lol, you want to call me clueless? .
    Yeah. Your opinions are mostly ignorant. Please read a few books on sports and try again later.
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