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Negative impact of new red shirt rule
The leading receiver for AR has decided to red shirt this season and transfer out in December. He played his 4 games and I guess saw first hand the dumpster fire in Fayetteville and decided to bail. Not sure I am in favor of a player quitting a third of the way into a season. To me, that is ripe for corruption by good teams looking to get better. I assume he'll still have to sit a year, but now you're going to have unscrupulous coaches in players' ears in the early season trying to talk them into burning a red shirt and leaving the team.
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Arkansas is a shit show. I wouldn't look to them as the example more like the exception.
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Yeah, I don't think this actually helps him. If he played all year, he could use next year as his redshirt year. He's using this year as his redshirt year, but that just means he'll burn next year.
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I'm not sure how the new rule accounts for this. If he stays on the team but doesn't play, he will have to sit next year. If he leaves the team, does it count as a redshirt year or a sit out year? It takes more than 4 games to count as a season played toward eligibility.
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I saw a tweet from someone this weekend that posed the question of:
"What happens if 30 guys on team doing poorly decide they are red-shirting and transferring?" The new rule is vague enough that you could see some real weird stuff happen later this fall.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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They're gonna find a way to screw up college football, before it is caput as we know it today.
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
I saw a tweet from someone this weekend that posed the question of:
"What happens if 30 guys on team doing poorly decide they are red-shirting and transferring?" The new rule is vague enough that you could see some real weird stuff happen later this fall.
Those 30 guys would then all lose a year unless they can graduate and transfer immediately.
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Originally Posted by
Bothrops
They're gonna find a way to screw up college football, before it is caput as we know it today.
College football is already screwed up unless you're in the lucky ten schools that get to play for a natty every year. The rest of us peasant schools live in a land where a natty is never possible yet we all come back every year and spend countless dollars like it is.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Yeah, I don't think this actually helps him. If he played all year, he could use next year as his redshirt year. He's using this year as his redshirt year, but that just means he'll burn next year.
What if he's a senior? Don't see a name so not sure
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Within a few years, they'll probably just do away with redshirting altogether and just give everyone 5 years to play.
That would be sensible since the average college student takes 5 years to graduate anyway. It will lead to smaller recruiting classes across the board, which will trickle some elite talent down to schools like us.
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Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
The leading receiver for AR has decided to red shirt this season and transfer out in December. He played his 4 games and I guess saw first hand the dumpster fire in Fayetteville and decided to bail. Not sure I am in favor of a player quitting a third of the way into a season. To me, that is ripe for corruption by good teams looking to get better. I assume he'll still have to sit a year, but now you're going to have unscrupulous coaches in players' ears in the early season trying to talk them into burning a red shirt and leaving the team.
Vegas this guy was leading receiver last year and only has 1 catch this year his name is Johnathan Nance. But yes I sure he see the dumpster fire also.
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This rule is going to have to change. There's too much gray and gives the players entirely too much leeway to make decisions that hurt their programs. Play for your team for 1/3 of the season then say hey I'm leaving?
That gives entirely too much control to the players. The argument is that hey coaches leave all the time. How many of them leave for a new school 4 games into the season? Zero. It's a dumb rule and it circumvents what was already in place because you know these kids are getting contacted by other schools.
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To me the easy fix is that the 4 game rule only applies to freshman
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
To me the easy fix is that the 4 game rule only applies to freshman
As long as playing any requires you to sit out when you transfer, then it only really seems to be a problem for potential graduate transfers.
If you play three games as a freshman or sophomore, and then decide you want to use that year as a RS and transfer, if you have to sit out the next year, it doesn't help you. Might as well play it out and then RS the year you're sitting out.
If they're not going to require people to sit out, I would suggest that there be some disincentive to quit midyear, so that if you quit after three games because of playing time, you don't get to use that year as a RS. Then you'd have people trying to drag out injuries I guess or just claiming to be injured.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Yeah, I don't think this actually helps him. If he played all year, he could use next year as his redshirt year. He's using this year as his redshirt year, but that just means he'll burn next year.
He's a senior so he couldn't do that.
He has 1 catch for -1 yards this year. Was pretty good in Bielema's offense last year, but didn't fit well with Morris apparently. Can't blame him for wanting to go a team with a better current QB situation.
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Originally Posted by
Irondawg
To me the easy fix is that the 4 game rule only applies to freshman
Boom. Sounds so crazy it would actually work.
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Junior Member
Amen. It’s taken me a while, but I’ve finally realized we will never compete for natty in football.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Within a few years, they'll probably just do away with redshirting altogether and just give everyone 5 years to play.
That would be sensible since the average college student takes 5 years to graduate anyway. It will lead to smaller recruiting classes across the board, which will trickle some elite talent down to schools like us.
This is what needs to happen and probably needs to happen in all sports.
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One of Oklahoma State's top WRs announced a transfer today as well.
CAN'T PUT A SADDLE ON A MUSTANG
Quit Your Bi$&$&?!, He's Not Going to Run the Ball More
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Kelly Bryant met with Dabo about possibly transferring...
"It is not courage to resist TUSK; It is courage to accept TUSK."
No.
Easy there buddy. Tusk is...well Tusk is Tusk. Tireddawg 12.20.17
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