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Alright, time for the fanbase to rebound
We want the team to rebound, time for us to rebound as well.
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We will give this team a packed rowdy house Saturday night. The team needs to take care of their business
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Originally Posted by
Lord McBuckethead
We want the team to rebound, time for us to rebound as well.
That's the most puzzling thing to me- it seems like we have had so many fans just jump off the bandwagon immediately.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's the most puzzling thing to me- it seems like we have had so many fans just jump off the bandwagon immediately.
Because that was the worst we have looked in 9 years and in 7 of those 9 years the guy leading the program didnt even wanna be here by the end of the season.
So hell yeah people are concerned. Every right to be. UK is not better than us and we lost by 21 points. We have the chance to have a special season nobody wants to see it wasted by trying to outsmart everyone and not being who we are.
He gets a mulligan its not fair for him not to get one. America is the land of 2nd chances
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's the most puzzling thing to me- it seems like we have had so many fans just jump off the bandwagon immediately.
Nobody has jumped off the bandwagon but Moorhead shit the bed Saturday. All I can say is I was in Manhattan and Lexington I will be in Starkvegas the next 2 weekends. If we lose to Fla and Auburn Moorhead is toast. This team is good but we are a running team and he better damn well realize it. I just don't know if he is a good head coach or not but the next 2 games will define him.
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Well KY gave us the example of how to be loud throughout the game. They were damn loud on tv. A lot of times all I hear at Davis Wade is just cowbells ringing and no one yelling. It's loud....but if we can yell and ring the bells at the same time.....it can be deafening. We gotta welcome Felipe Franks with a good dose of noise and several DL greeting him facemask to facemask. Don Merlin is used to it and can only tell his players what it's like.....but I dont think any of them have ever played here in their careers.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Because that was the worst we have looked in 9 years and in 7 of those 9 years the guy leading the program didnt even wanna be here by the end of the season.
So hell yeah people are concerned. Every right to be. UK is not better than us and we lost by 21 points. We have the chance to have a special season nobody wants to see it wasted by trying to outsmart everyone and not being who we are.
He gets a mulligan its not fair for him not to get one. America is the land of 2nd chances

Originally Posted by
99jc
Nobody has jumped off the bandwagon but Moorhead shit the bed Saturday. All I can say is I was in Manhattan and Lexington I will be in Starkvegas the next 2 weekends. If we lose to Fla and Auburn Moorhead is toast. This team is good but we are a running team and he better damn well realize it. I just don't know if he is a good head coach or not but the next 2 games will define him.
You two are melting really hard. It was 14-7 with 8 minutes to go vs what may end up being dubbed Kentucky's best team in the last 50 years. It was also raining for the entire game and on the road. Our QB played like crap again on the road and our soph LT had the worst game of his career with just about everyone else on the OL not much better than him.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Because that was the worst we have looked in 9 years and in 7 of those 9 years the guy leading the program didnt even wanna be here by the end of the season.
So hell yeah people are concerned. Every right to be. UK is not better than us and we lost by 21 points. We have the chance to have a special season nobody wants to see it wasted by trying to outsmart everyone and not being who we are.
He gets a mulligan its not fair for him not to get one. America is the land of 2nd chances
We looked every bit of that bad against Georgia and Auburn last year, not to mention Alabama 2016, South Alabama 2016, Arkansas 2016 and even though we won- Samford 2016 was bad too. I think we have some fans that have forgotten about that because we tried to run the ball in those games.
We lost because our offensive line was horrible moreso than anything else. I can't sit here and believe that we could have run the ball on them with our line playing like that. Yeah- maybe we could have done a couple of things to band aid it for a little while but I feel pretty confident that the odds of UK adjusting shortly thereafter are pretty high.
People can talk about how we have a chance to have a special season but the fact of the matter is years of poor offensive line recruiting and WR recruiting is hurting us. If we had upperclass talent and depth on the o-line like we had on the d-line this year and can have that at the same time- odds of being special increase quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
You two are melting really hard. It was 14-7 with 8 minutes to go vs what may end up being dubbed Kentucky's best team in the last 50 years. It was also raining for the entire game and on the road. Our QB played like crap again on the road and our soph LT had the worst game of his career with just about everyone else on the OL not much better than him.
Kentuckys best team in 50 years is not better than us (def not 21 pts better) and they cant sniff Bama or UGA. And if we are going to do what we thought we could do this year it was one we had no business losing. If we are going to do what we thought we could do we have to compete with Bama. And UK cant compete with them. They just beat us by 21.
Thats no melt. That is facts.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We looked every bit of that bad against Georgia and Auburn last year, not to mention Alabama 2016, South Alabama 2016, Arkansas 2016 and even though we won- Samford 2016 was bad too. I think we have some fans that have forgotten about that because we tried to run the ball in those games.
We lost because our offensive line was horrible moreso than anything else. I can't sit here and believe that we could have run the ball on them with our line playing like that. Yeah- maybe we could have done a couple of things to band aid it for a little while but I feel pretty confident that the odds of UK adjusting shortly thereafter are pretty high.
People can talk about how we have a chance to have a special season but the fact of the matter is years of poor offensive line recruiting and WR recruiting is hurting us. If we had upperclass talent and depth on the o-line like we had on the d-line this year and can have that at the same time- odds of being special increase quite a bit.
We had 0 chance vs Bama in 16 and no one expected anything different that what happened. Arkansas in 16 had nothing to do with not running the ball. We couldnt stop a nosebleed bc Mullen wanted to be part DC and HC.
I will give you UGA, Auburn in 17 and USA and Samford those were all shit performances. Samford was alot like Arkansas that year.
We could have ran the ball better than what we did but we didnt commit to it. All 5 of those OL's are probably NFL guys and 2 of them have a chance to go high in the draft. They didnt become bad players over night.
We beat them 45-7 with mainly the same OL and QB. And defense. And we got better at WR than we were a year ago. No excuses
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
Kentuckys best team in 50 years is not better than us (def not 21 pts better) and they cant sniff Bama or UGA. And if we are going to do what we thought we could do this year it was one we had no business losing. If we are going to do what we thought we could do we have to compete with Bama. And UK cant compete with them. They just beat us by 21.
Thats no melt. That is facts.
At no point in time have I ever thought we could compete with Bama or Georgia this year. Nobody can. Except Bama and Georgia. We need Saban to retire as does the entire rest of college football before Alabama can maybe start coming back to the rest of the pack some. That's just reality dude. Saban has built a monster dynasty and he keeps improving them at a faster rate than we can improve ourselves. Kentucky is also an improved program. It's taken Stoops 6 years but he's gotten it done. Kudos to them for sticking with him and to Stoops for building Kentucky into a formidable SEC East program. They have a realistic chance to go 11-1 this year. That ass whooping we just took needs to permanently change the way you think of Kentucky football under Stoops moving forward.
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I've just realized that this is going to be a bumpy ride through November as Moorhead learns how to be a head coach. He said all the right things in the press conference, but will that translate to the field Saturday? I have a hard time believing the problems we have can be fixed in one week, but we shall see. The penalties have not been fixed through 4 games.
I actually bought the hype this year, and I've never done that with a football team before. Even when we had Dak, I never fully bought into the hype. I knew the bottom would fall out at some point. This year, I bought into it. Never again. It's just so hard to dig a program out of the gutter like Mullen did that it would be catastrophic to backslide.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg2003
I've just realized that this is going to be a bumpy ride through November as Moorhead learns how to be a head coach. He said all the right things in the press conference, but will that translate to the field Saturday? I have a hard time believing the problems we have can be fixed in one week, but we shall see. The penalties have not been fixed through 4 games.
I actually bought the hype this year, and I've never done that with a football team before. Even when we had Dak, I never fully bought into the hype. I knew the bottom would fall out at some point. This year, I bought into it. Never again. It's just so hard to dig a program out of the gutter like Mullen did that it would be catastrophic to backslide.
Post like this are funny to me. I guess some people just have the personality or past experiences they are afraid to get hurt. If that's you I'm sorry. But come on - you learn from adversity. We have hit adversity. People don't stay the same and neither do football teams. MSU's coaching staff and players will learn from this loss and improve. They may not fix everything this week, but hopefully they will fix enough to win. By November this will not be the same team you see in September. And you'll forget all about it because that's what happens to prisoners of the moment.
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We ( supposedly) have the oat talent w?ve wver has .this is the team e?ve waited on.
Moorhead has one job - Don?t screw it up.
We lose at Kentucky and look like crap. That is screwing it up.
We aren?t rebuilding... t hat happens next year.
This is all my concern. If we play like that with these players, what are we gonna do with lesser players?
Also we didn?t hire him thinking ?he needs time to get his players here?. We hired him to take th most talented team we?ve ever had and maximize their potential.
Losing to Kentucky is not doing that.
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Losing to Kentucky sucked. The way we lost sucked worse. But all the goals for the season can still be accomplished, granted we will have to run the table or close to it. How about we wait to see how Moorhead and the team respond before totally freaking out. If we lose to Florida, then sure freak out. It seems like a lot of wasted energy freaking out this week if we end up beating Florida and then the freak out is on hold. And then we beat Auburn and the freak out is called off. Just like the completion percentage freak out after Week 2 went away after week 3.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We looked every bit of that bad against Georgia and Auburn last year, not to mention Alabama 2016, South Alabama 2016, Arkansas 2016 and even though we won- Samford 2016 was bad too. I think we have some fans that have forgotten about that because we tried to run the ball in those games.
We lost because our offensive line was horrible moreso than anything else. I can't sit here and believe that we could have run the ball on them with our line playing like that. Yeah- maybe we could have done a couple of things to band aid it for a little while but I feel pretty confident that the odds of UK adjusting shortly thereafter are pretty high.
People can talk about how we have a chance to have a special season but the fact of the matter is years of poor offensive line recruiting and WR recruiting is hurting us. If we had upperclass talent and depth on the o-line like we had on the d-line this year and can have that at the same time- odds of being special increase quite a bit.
1. UGA and AU were pretty elite teams last year. AU was a beast at home and UGA was the 2nd best team in America. Kentucky isn't that good.
2. Our OL talent didn't suddenly suck. This same line dominated KY last year. This basically same team dominated them.
3. We looked atrocious. It wasn't simply getting beat or having less talent. It's was a total coaching clinic by KY.
DW will be packed out and it'll be pretty crazy anyway. If we do that shit again this week, it's over for the fans and the staff. People can try to sugar coat it, but last week was as ugly as I've seen in a long time.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
1. UGA and AU were pretty elite teams last year. AU was a beast at home and UGA was the 2nd best team in America. Kentucky isn't that good.
2. Our OL talent didn't suddenly suck. This same line dominated KY last year. This basically same team dominated them.
3. We looked atrocious. It wasn't simply getting beat or having less talent. It's was a total coaching clinic by KY.
DW will be packed out and it'll be pretty crazy anyway. If we do that shit again this week, it's over for the fans and the staff. People can try to sugar coat it, but last week was as ugly as I've seen in a long time.
Nah dude, last week was on Mullen. Moorhead just has nothing to work with**
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
1. UGA and AU were pretty elite teams last year. AU was a beast at home and UGA was the 2nd best team in America. Kentucky isn't that good.
2. Our OL talent didn't suddenly suck. This same line dominated KY last year. This basically same team dominated them.
3. We looked atrocious. It wasn't simply getting beat or having less talent. It's was a total coaching clinic by KY.
DW will be packed out and it'll be pretty crazy anyway. If we do that shit again this week, it's over for the fans and the staff. People can try to sugar coat it, but last week was as ugly as I've seen in a long time.
We played extremely poorly in the rain. We had 201 yards of offense. Kentucky only had 300 yards of offense. It was a very ugly game. We had almost as many penalty yards as we did offense. It was just a total shit show in the rain for us. I keep mentioning the rain for a reason. It melted us. WR's couldn't catch, QB couldn't throw, RB's couldn't run, OL couldn't block and our damn coaches couldn't get a play called in less than 25 seconds.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
We played extremely poorly in the rain. We had 201 yards of offense. Kentucky only had 300 yards of offense. It was a very ugly game. We had almost as many penalty yards as we did offense. It was just a total shit show in the rain for us. I keep mentioning the rain for a reason. It melted us. WR's couldn't catch, QB couldn't throw, RB's couldn't run, OL couldn't block and our damn coaches couldn't get a play called in less than 25 seconds.
Rain predicted Saturday morning and Sunday AM. If rain is an auto loss, hope it stays clear. Personally, I think our problems Saturday were a little deeper than precipitation
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