Nick has had some red flags

[Todd4State]

Dak Prescott has had several very public incidents that our fans have given him a total pass for. Fitz doesn’t get a dang mohawk and gets suspended for one game and all of the sudden he’s a bad person with red flags all around.

He screwed up. He is serving his suspension. The coaching staff is very pleased with where he is, and our team voted him captain after the fact. That’s all there is to it. Why do our own fans have to make this out like he is a cancer to our team?

You nailed it. And I don't understand it. Yes, Nick is not as humble and nice as Dak on first impression but he's on pace to be statistically better in some categories than Dak. If Nick and the team has a better season this year than Dak's 2014 and 2015 I'd personally have to say that Nick was a better player.


The thing is on two of those red flags Damien Williams was stirring up trouble with the QB controversy and it was Damien's beard that Bob said something about that got him riled up. On the QB controversy Dan still started Nick during the USA game so he obviously must have blown Damien away using Dan's rigged system per Baker Swedenburg's sixpack post. Then he pulls Nick after what? 1-2 series and doesn't play him the rest of the game at all. And then names Nick the starter the next day after the game- so you know it had nothing to do with how anyone practiced that week. And then all of a sudden Nick was good the rest of the year. I don't see how Dan being an idiot with the QB depth chart is Nick's fault.


And on the Bob thing- as I said Nick didn't start it. Did he make fun or treat Bob bad after that? I don't know for sure, but if he did- and I have no reason to doubt that he treated Bob bad- it wasn't like he was the one who started it and he was hardly the only guy making fun of Bob on the team. That doesn't make making fun of Bob C right- but if we're going to pin that on Nick the other players need to take as much responsibility for it as well.


Now the mohawk- Nick IS dating a beauty pageant girl who did tell him on Twitter to not get it cut after her pageants. I'm guessing that she's also the main reason for him not getting one. Even if I'm wrong- if I was on the team, I wouldn't be sitting in the huddle like "Gee, I don't trust Nick on this 4th and one because I remember he didn't get a mohawk." Yeah- Nick is getting flak from the baseball team about it. But he's also got a pageant girl as a girlfriend and they and the other people here who "don't think he's a man and can't trust his word" aren't. All I'm saying is you can call me untrustworthy in exchange for me dating Miss South Carolina any day and every day of the week.


I will say that his suspension is very disappointing and what he did was dumb. But he will be fine. Hopefully he learns a lesson from this and we all move forward. Shoot- Bear Bryant benched Joe Namath for a bowl game and Namath turned out OK. Some QB's are like Bond, Manziel, Namath, Stabler, and Nick. They like to party, they're probably pretty cocky and confident people because of the nature of what they do athletically, and that's just the way it is. Enjoy their talents on the field and don't care as much about the "person" they are off the field. I'm not paying money to watch John Bond drive off in a Corvette with beer. All of these guys have issues- there aren't very man clean cut ones- Brady, Favre, DAK all of have done their share of idiotic things.

[Quaoarsking]

Dak Prescott has had several very public incidents that our fans have given him a total pass for. Fitz doesn’t get a dang mohawk and gets suspended for one game and all of the sudden he’s a bad person with red flags all around.

He screwed up. He is serving his suspension. The coaching staff is very pleased with where he is, and our team voted him captain after the fact. That’s all there is to it. Why do our own fans have to make this out like he is a cancer to our team?

Dak Prescott never got himself suspended for a game, especially not his senior year. Not a valid comparison.

I don't care about the mohawk and I'm not going to hold a long-term grudge, but it's an absolutely terrible look for the leader of our team to do something bad enough for this level of punishment.

[LC Dawg]

Dak was no saint but if he had gotten suspended for the first game of his senior season he would have caught some grief from fans. The dui (which was later dropped) was after his eligibility had expired. Dak was also constantly doing things to endear himself to the fan base and to people in general. There are different ways to lead. Fitz seems to have the respect of his team and that is all that really matters. I was at USM when Favre was there before I transferred to State. Pretty much everyone that met him personally did not care for him but they loved him on Saturday.

[Dawg61]

Dak is treated differently than everyone else because he was the first real national QB we've basically ever had (Fitz #2), he led us to our very first and only #1 ranking ever and he's the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. To say Dak isn't treated differently is lying. Dak is our Peyton Manning. He just is. Do I think he'll forever be the goat QB at State? Nope I think we have a string of them that have real potential to surpass him and his accomplishments here at State but it's gonna be awfully tough to surpass him perception wise in this fanbase unless one of these next 3 becomes the starting QB for the Giants or Saints and wins a Super Bowl. Even then though Dak might have one by that time.

[BeastMan]

Beast - some good stuff as always - but you know me I've got to push back some on this some.

In light of the Baker Swedenberg thread on SPS I think there is a lot here that we have to unpack. If Dan was is as Swede writes - he created a lot of conflict situations that could have been avoided. If Dan was playing favorites, had players he was trying to drive out, etc., coouldn't he be to blame? Would almost make you think D Williams and Fitz were pitted against each other because ole Two Gloves didn't want to deal with it like a man?

We also don't know what type of expectations Dan set - and what he allowed favorites to get away with. If Fitz missed a meeting - and was used to Dan letting that stuff slide (especially for a guy putting in hours on rehab) - then Fitz is actually doing more as a leader by taking the punishment and setting the tone.

I still view the haircut thing as joke between friends that got out of control. I have had a number of times in life when a dumbass friend committed me to something stupid just to see how I would react. You go along with it to a point - and then they give you shit when you break. That just happens on social media now and we all see it because we are all freaky vouyers now.

And yeah - I'm throwing shit against the wall, but the reality is everyone outside a small circle of people is too. We all know that most of us don't have sources good enough sources to really give deep insight on this.

All good really reasonable points Brunswick. And its not like I don?t like Fitz. I just have some criticisms

[RocketDawg]

Dak is treated differently than everyone else because he was the first real national QB we've basically ever had (Fitz #2), he led us to our very first and only #1 ranking ever and he's the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. To say Dak isn't treated differently is lying. Dak is our Peyton Manning. He just is. Do I think he'll forever be the goat QB at State? Nope I think we have a string of them that have real potential to surpass him and his accomplishments here at State but it's gonna be awfully tough to surpass him perception wise in this fanbase unless one of these next 3 becomes the starting QB for the Giants or Saints and wins a Super Bowl. Even then though Dak might have one by that time.

What it boils down to is that Dak came/comes across as a nice guy, was fan friendly, and seemed to like kids. Fans liked him. Fans like Nick too, but he doesn't seem to have quite the humility of Dak.

[Coach34]

Shit- I'm trying not to post but you guys pull me back in.

Dakota Prescott is a natural leader and a damn hard worker. His teammates see that he will work just as hard as any player on the team- so not only does he get respect for being the QB- he gets respect for being one of the hardest workers on the team.

Fitz is super talented and the other players respect him. But he isnt their die-hard leader. He is the pretty-boy super talented QB that does work fairly hard. But he likes to party hard also. So the other players love him because he plays hard and parties hard. Thats why he is a captain. He is a smaller version of Michael Irvin at QB, But he has to realize that being an SEC QB has its microscope and Johnny Manziel has made it tougher on partying QB's. NFL clubs are more leary.

Word out of camp is that there is a clear gap between Fitz and Thompson- so his job isnt in jeopardy. But hopefully he has realized that partying needs to take a backseat to winning the SEC title. Only 4 QB's have had a chance to win the SEC Title in my lifetime- Bond, Madkin, Prescott, and now Fitz. He better take advantage of that chance.

[BrunswickDawg]

"But what if you can party hard and win the SEC?"
- signed Joseph William Namath

[ShotgunDawg]

Shit- I'm trying not to post but you guys pull me back in.

Could you please start 17ing posting again?

Whatever point you were trying to make has been made & it's time to move on.

We need you here

[dawgday166]

Shit- I'm trying not to post but you guys pull me back in.

He is a smaller version of Michael Irvin at QB,

Surely he isn't as wild as Michael Irvin. I'm a hoping not.

[Hambone]

Exactly, it wasn’t Fitz who caused a scene about Bobs story, it was Williams.

[Coach34]

Surely he isn't as wild as Michael Irvin. I'm a hoping not.

Every Dallas Cowboy to this day still says that Michael Irvin is the best practice player they have ever had. He was a practice warrior.

[Coach34]

Could you please start 17ing posting again?

Whatever point you were trying to make has been made & it's time to move on.

We need you here

Not until I get my percentage back and Scooba is gone

[dawgday166]

Every Dallas Cowboy to this day still says that Michael Irvin is the best practice player they have ever had. He was a practice warrior.

I was meaning off the field.

[BeardoMSU]

Not until I get my percentage back and Scooba is gone

[Coach34]

I will be starting a new Miss State board this Fall. We will let things fall where they will. Dont bet against me

[Cooterpoot]

I?m convinced we?ve got the worst damn fans in football because of s hit like the OP posted.

[BeardoMSU]

I will be starting a new Miss State board this Fall. We will let things fall where they will. Dont bet against me

What will the new site's policy be towards fruit-themed nicknames?**

Good luck...I'm sure there will be plenty of rubes ready to swear fealty.

[RocketDawg]

Exactly, it wasn’t Fitz who caused a scene about Bobs story, it was Williams.

That's the way I remember it too. Some players were being petty about Bob's comments, but I don't think Fitz was one of them. The whole thing was meant to be all in fun.

[Lord McBuckethead]

I am going to have to disagree. The dude has been in the spotlight and a shadow from Dak at the same time. Give the dude a break. He should have a mohawk though.