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    Sorry to hijack y'all's Braves thread but didn't wanna start a new thread. I think this short video clip of the D-Backs barely making the deadline getting the Rangers pitcher is pretty cool. The video shows him being golf carted to the locker room then meeting his new team mates.

    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/0...-deadline.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoom View Post
    Sorry, confused him with Weigal, who I forgot to include.
    Speaking of, he (PW) should be back soon. I really like him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1 View Post
    Grading Kolby Allard's Stuff

    ? Below Average to Average Fastball Velocity. (88-90 mph; Grade 45-50) (Below Average Spin Rate)

    ? Average Curveball Velocity (76-80 mph; Grade 50) (Below Average to Average Spin Rate)

    ? Below Average Changeup Velocity (80-83 mph; Grade 40-45) (Average Spin Rate)

    ? Good Slider Velocity (88-90 mph; Grade 55-60) (Average Spin Rate)

    Allard is a #3 or #4 Starting Pitcher at best.
    This is so stupid. He is a 20 year old pitcher who relies on control....and he's already earned a MLB start. There is plenty of room for improvement. Tom Glavine was a mediocre MLB pitcher until he turned 25 years old, then he had a hall of fame career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matty Dispatch View Post
    This is so stupid. He is a 20 year old pitcher who relies on control....and he's already earned a MLB start. There is plenty of room for improvement. Tom Glavine was a mediocre MLB pitcher until he turned 25 years old, then he had a hall of fame career.
    Guts, guile, and carftiness can't be quantified in sabermetrics so they get ignored...but those 3 things got glavine to the HOF

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    Nm.

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    The art of hitting your spot has been replaced by blowing your stuff by people or having exceedingly hard breaking stuff.

    But you can still have average stuff and be a damn good pitcher by hitting your spots. It's no easier to hit a FB in the bottom away corner of the zone than it was 20 years ago. Allard can have a fine career. But his style of pitching isn't flashy and doesn't draw attention which is a negative in today's sports media.

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    I still wanna see allard pitch more, but I do think stuff is very important. I'm hoping that for whatever reason his stuff wasn't sharp last night. He's been ultra successful at every level and debuted in mlb at 20, so I'm hardly closing the book on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    The art of hitting your spot has been replaced by blowing your stuff by people or having exceedingly hard breaking stuff.

    But you can still have average stuff and be a damn good pitcher by hitting your spots. It's no easier to hit a FB in the bottom away corner of the zone than it was 20 years ago. Allard can have a fine career. But his style of pitching isn't flashy and doesn't draw attention which is a negative in today's sports media.
    Sure, but he doesn't have average stuff. He has terrible stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Sure, but he doesn't have average stuff. He has terrible stuff.
    This is a not factual statement.

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    Major league debut at 20, lengthy rain delay, control feel pitcher in wet conditions and still went 5 quality innings. Not saying he will be a top of the rotation guy but come on guys. He is better than some of y’all think after just 1 start

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Major league debut at 20, lengthy rain delay, control feel pitcher in wet conditions and still went 5 quality innings. Not saying he will be a top of the rotation guy but come on guys. He is better than some of y?all think after just 1 start
    Agreed.

    He had no curve at all. Surely the conditions played a role there. But he was very lucky that Miami hit some at em balls which helped him get out of innings. He'll get some more well deserved opportunities but his margin for error will always be less

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