Brandon Walker on UGA

[Pollodawg]

Brandon Walker, Kylin is better than Aeries.





. Getcho popcorn ready.

[Bulldog1]

Georgia went from Top 4/5 in SEC recruiting before Smart, to Top 2 SEC recruiting since Smart has been at Georgia. Sorry, I can't compare that to Hugh Freeze.

[Cooterpoot]

Well, since everybody is cheating and pretty much getting away with it, when do we fire Bracky? I mean, if we can look around and say all these schools are cheating and we can see the NCAA didn't really touch OM, then I blame our administration for not playing the same game as the rest of the league.
Stop blaming the other schools for winning if you've got proof the others are cheating and getting away with it.

[smootness]

And I think that is walkers point. It wasn't the result of a gradual grind of building relationships. It was a 7-5 unproven staff immediately becoming the best recruiting program in the country.

UGA has always competed for and landed elite kids. Multiple in basically every class. They're just getting more now.

Ole Miss went from never competing for elite OOS recruits to landing multiple in the same class.

The two are not comparable.

[smootness]

It's not whining, because I started saying this publicly a few weeks ago, long before Emery committed to UGA.

For whatever reason, we have fans that want to excuse UGA and put them on a pedestal to excuse what's happening. Is UGA a better recruiting school historically than Ole Miss and therefore expected to sign better classes? Yes. But that doesn't change the fact that UGA is absolutely changing the game right now in how they are acquiring talent. They are emptying the wallet. It's not just Emery. Look at 5-star QB Justin Fields last year, who could have gone anywhere in the country and started this year. Instead, he chose to go possibly ride the bench for 3 years at UGA. Emery just committed to a place that has a 5-star soph and the No. 1 and No. 3 back from the 2018 class.

I'm not guessing here. When Freeze started recruiting well at Ole Miss, their network upped the game and went all in, deciding to sign any 5-star they could with no regard for how it looked. I'm in Georgia. I've talked to some recruiting insiders in Athens. I asked why Fields would sign with UGA, and one flat out said "If the bag is big enough, kids don't care about the depth chart.

So yes UGA is a good school. Yes they are in a talent-rich state. But Kirby Smart isn't getting these guys because he works hard. Their boosters are changing the standard of how the recruiting game is played.

If you think it's whining, that's fine. But the standard of cheating is being changed in Athens, Georgia right now. And it has nothing to do with John Emery or Mississippi State or me getting upset.

I don't care who you know in Athens. I live down the road from Fields' HS and know several people who know him extremely well. The fact that you think UGA must have paid a kid from Cobb County because he chose them is laughable. Don't make claims you can't back up. He went there to compete. If he doesn't beat out Fromm im a year or two, he may leave. But he didn't go there with the idea of riding the bench for 3 years.

It was the least shocking thing ever when he committed to UGA. Heck, he was committed to Penn St. before that. I suppose they were cheating like mad since it was far more of a shock for him to potentially go there.

If kids cared only about the depth chart, they'd never go to big-time schools.

I'm not excusing UGA. It makes sense that they're pulling the kids they're pulling. It's crazy they're pulling this many and very rare but it isn't shocking or confusing.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Brandon and Confucius are right... Smart took UGA from "elite recruiter" to best "in the country" before proving anything on the field. It's not like Richt was a scrub recruiter either- he signed the #8 class in the country last year at Miami.

It isn't that UGA is getting top 3 classes so they must be cheating, it's that they're DOMINATING all the other blue bloods. They have more 5 starts committed than Bama, FSU, Texas, and Clemson have combined. So if Richt was a good recruiter, and most of the other blue bloods have good recruiters, why is it that Smart is blowing them away? The obvious answer is that they are cheating more.

"Bama and the the other blue bloods wouldn't stand for it!" you might think, but I ask, would the NCAA even want to nail a blue blood? They're too chicken to nail OM, they're probably too chicken to investigate UGA. Besides, you think Smart, his assistants, and players don't have dirt on every other blue blood? It's mutually assured destruction if Bama/Clemson/whoever starts calling for UGA to be investigated. The NCAA knows this, and so wouldn't open that can of worms. UGA boosters are making a calculated gamble

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Georgia went from Top 4/5 in SEC recruiting before Smart, to Top 2 SEC recruiting since Smart has been at Georgia. Sorry, I can't compare that to Hugh Freeze.

No, they went from top 4/5 in the SEC to top 2 in the country, with currently more 5 stars than plural blue bloods have combined

The red flag is not that they're recruiting among the best, it's that they're putting the best to shame. There's no way he's that much better of a recruiter than Dabo, Saban, etc. Meyer is the only one keeping up

[confucius say]

You don't feel that smart had prior relationships at bama to the recruits he signed that first year? Not like smart was at ark state, and all the sudden started recruiting blue chips... he's been recruiting blue chips for years now

The staffs rships are much more important than smarts. His visits are restricted bc he is a head coach.

[msstate7]

Of note... the state of Georgia has the most 5-stars (7 out of 34 20.6%). Of the 7 5-stars in Georgia, 4 of them are committed to OOS schools (auburn, Tennessee, Clemson, and Michigan). Georgia has 3. If Georgia was cheating at historical levels, no way they let 4 5-stars in their backyard leave. 5 5-stars isn't historical either... Ohio state did it in 2017

[msstate7]

The staffs rships are much more important than smarts. His visits are restricted bc he is a head coach.

How many bama coaches did he take?

[ShotgunDawg]

Of note... the state of Georgia has the most 5-stars (7 out of 34 20.6%). Of the 7 5-stars in Georgia, 4 of them are committed to OOS schools (auburn, Tennessee, Clemson, and Michigan). Georgia has 3. If Georgia was cheating at historical levels, no way they let 4 5-stars in their backyard leave. 5 5-stars isn't historical either... Ohio state did it in 2017

Do all those 5 Stars play different positions?

Jus curious if they had choose either/or?

[confucius say]

Georgia went from Top 4/5 in SEC recruiting before Smart, to Top 2 SEC recruiting since Smart has been at Georgia. Sorry, I can't compare that to Hugh Freeze.

Jumping the top eight blue bloods and going from 9 in the country to 1 in the country (smart) is harder than jumping MSU and USCe to go from 23 to 11 (freeze).

[Cooterpoot]

It's been a long time since we've had a quality conspiracy theory on here. I feel like it's finally here.

[msstate7]

Do all those 5 Stars play different positions?

Jus curious if they had choose either/or?

2 WR = both Georgia
1 OT = OOS
1 OLB = OOS
1 DE = OOS
1 DT = Georgia
1 CB = OOS

[confucius say]

UGA has always competed for and landed elite kids. Multiple in basically every class. They're just getting more now.

Ole Miss went from never competing for elite OOS recruits to landing multiple in the same class.

The two are not comparable.

Let's cut to the chase. I believe uga boosters are offering more $ and benefits to recruits than Mississippi boosters did under Freeze. Do you disagree?

[ShotgunDawg]

2 WR = both Georgia
1 OT = OOS
1 OLB = OOS
1 DE = OOS
1 DT = Georgia
1 CB = OOS

I'd have to look at what UGA has committed or the players they are targeting. It's possible that they have a committed guy or target that internally they evaluate higher

[confucius say]

How many bama coaches did he take?

1 - Mel Tucker, who had only been at Bama one season and had not coached in college since 2005 prior to his one season at Bama.

[TUSK]

I dunno if GA is "cheating" any worse than they have in the past, but I do know this:

UGA recruiting at a "historically high level" (while recruiting GA and FL) is not in the same frickin' galaxy as Ole Miss going from a Top 50 recruiter to Top 10 overnight...

Just friggin' stop it, BW...

[confucius say]

Of note... the state of Georgia has the most 5-stars (7 out of 34 20.6%). Of the 7 5-stars in Georgia, 4 of them are committed to OOS schools (auburn, Tennessee, Clemson, and Michigan). Georgia has 3. If Georgia was cheating at historical levels, no way they let 4 5-stars in their backyard leave. 5 5-stars isn't historical either... Ohio state did it in 2017

Ohio State was coming off four straight NY6 bowls. Smart instantly became the head of the best recruiting program in college football with no head coaching experience except for one 7-5 season. Uga is cheating it's ass off.

[ShotgunDawg]

I dunno if GA is "cheating" any worse than they have in the past, but I do know this:

UGA recruiting at a "historically high level" (while recruiting GA and FL) is not in the same frickin' galaxy as Ole Miss going from a Top 50 recruiter to Top 10 overnight...

Just friggin' stop it, BW...

Easier to hide for sure