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Thread: Henderson has earned the right to turn it down, if he doesn't want it

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    You can certainly argue Henderson has 'earned' the job. He still shouldn't get it, and I can assure you we won't get destroyed if we don't hire him.

    Making this decision out of fear of backlash would be the absolute worst way to go about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    Hendo deserves way more credit than he's getting on here for what he's done with this team. He has made a lot of posters look dumb and quite a few of them are doubling down...very odd and somewhat funny to watch.

    Then on the other side of the coin this does feel like a bill Stewart at West Virginia scenario. But I'll lean toward trusting Cohen in the end.
    what he said--big time agree

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    In the history of college sports has any college program ever fired a coach the year after winning a national title?

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    90% of you Hendo haters were the very ones whining that we wouldn't win 5 SEC games. Ya'll pointed out all the reasons why we were terrible-- has it ever occurred that maybe you are also wrong on Hendo? 10-1 against top 5 teams in the Nation, should have slapped some sense into you. A piss poor Coach wouldn't have done that. We know what we have with this staff-who knows what another staff might do? But, I will be 100% on board with the JC choice, but I'll bet you negative 17ers will whine either way.

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    Supposedly, Schloss is going around Omaha saying he's still interested in our opening. Interesting at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    In the history of college sports has any college program ever fired a coach the year after winning a national title?
    You can't get fired from a job you never had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparkerfd20 View Post
    Supposedly, Schloss is going around Omaha saying he's still interested in our opening. Interesting at least.
    Yep. It's definitely interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mparkerfd20 View Post
    Supposedly, Schloss is going around Omaha saying he's still interested in our opening. Interesting at least.
    I can say without a doubt, he will not be our coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    You can’t find countless examples of a failed head coach turning it around. You can find a few, and you didn’t find a single one at the college baseball level (because you have to recruit and don’t just get handed the Yankees or cardinals roster that anyone could win with). I can find countless in all sports that got fired and were never hired again or were hired again and failed miserably again though. Would you like me to name those? I doubt we have enough bandwidth.
    I think you don't see it in college baseball because the staffs are far less volatile than in MLB. Also, look at most career trajectories - You play college ball, kick around MiLB or get a cup of coffee in MLB for 5-6 years, so you are almost 30 before beginning your coaching career. Spend 1-2 years as a GA. Then 5-10 as an assistant. Get your first HC gig at a mid-major and spend 5-8 years there. You may then get a gig at a place like Kentucky or Illinois for 5-8 years before landing a "major" job. On a fast track - you are early 40s when you get that major (like Cohen). A good coach will last 8-15 years at the major before a change is made. You could be 52-60 years old having spent a lot of time in the game. Then, look at the options they have. On good terms with the University? Move up to AD like Cohen or Tanner did. Like your lifestyle and location? Get a job as an area scout for an MLB team because you already know all the High Schools and where to look. Have a good rep as an instructor and in player development? Move up to MiLB as a coach or into a MLB scouting department. Or, if you have done well for yourself, you could just retire and go coach high school ball for fun (Dave Perno is coaching high school football in Athens after going to 3 CWS, and is arguably UGA's best coach in the modern era - he's only 50)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    You can?t find countless examples of a failed head coach turning it around. You can find a few, and you didn?t find a single one at the college baseball level (because you have to recruit and don?t just get handed the Yankees or cardinals roster that anyone could win with). I can find countless in all sports that got fired and were never hired again or were hired again and failed miserably again though. Would you like me to name those? I doubt we have enough bandwidth.
    There are a ton in MLB because of the nature, where as college baseball they let a good coach stay with his process for a long time. Andy Lopez comes to mind. Wins at Pepperdine, fired at Florida, wins it again at Arizona
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    I can say without a doubt, he will not be our coach.
    I agree with you. He wanted it though, badly it looks like. I always thought it was us that told him no thanks. I've always thought we had out coach as far back as a month ago, and it wasn't Schloss. I won't say who I think it is, but it's not Hendo either.... Although I can see Hendo throwing a kink in the plans.

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