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Well ... he beat Corbin, supposedly one of the best coaches in the country, 2 out of 3. And he beat Florida, the No 1 team, 3 in a row. Maybe he's not so bad. I've forgotten what his record against Top 10 teams is, but it's something like 90% win.
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There isn't a chance in hell Cohen thought this run to Omaha would happen. I have to imagine for as awesome as this is, any plans he had to interview outside of MSU have been significantly altered by the fact our current staff has us in Omaha.
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As I've said before, if Saban leaves Alabama after 3 games and Mike Locksley becomes the interim coach and takes them to a NY6 bowl, is there a chance in hell he gets the permanent job?
Even if he won the CFP, would he get the job?
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
As I've said before, if Saban leaves Alabama after 3 games and Mike Locksley becomes the interim coach and takes them to a NY6 bowl, is there a chance in hell he gets the permanent job?
Even if he won the CFP, would he get the job?
You comparing our baseball team to Alabama football? What if Moorhead left after 3 games and Shoop led us to a playoff game? Would Shoop get the job?
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So what happens if Henderson gets the job and Gatreau takes a head coaching job somewhere else? Gatreau seems to be as much or more of an impact than Henderson.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You comparing our baseball team to Alabama football? What if Moorhead left after 3 games and Shoop led us to a playoff game? Would Shoop get the job?
Our baseball program is light years ahead of our football program. CWS appearances 3 times in 10 years is a lot better than never being in a playoff game. Making the CWS doesn’t get you the job.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
So what happens if Henderson gets the job and Gatreau takes a head coaching job somewhere else? Gatreau seems to be as much or more of an impact than Henderson.
This is somethin a lot of folks are taking for granted. Whole lot of assuming goin on when it comes to gotro stickin around if Henderson does get it
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Cohen’s job is not to give it to the person who has ‘earned’ it, or as a reward for anything. It is to hire the best person for the job going forward.
If he believes that is Henderson, then so be it, but I certainly don’t.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
Cohen’s job is not to give it to the person who has ‘earned’ it, or as a reward for anything. It is to hire the best person for the job going forward.
If he believes that is Henderson, then so be it, but I certainly don’t.
I agree 100%. Rep given.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You comparing our baseball team to Alabama football? What if Moorhead left after 3 games and Shoop led us to a playoff game? Would Shoop get the job?
Really I'm trying to compare Henderson to a football coach that was a failure when he got a chance to be a head coach. If there's another coordinator in the SEC who did that, you can put him into the analogy.
Shoop would get the job in that scenario -- but he probably wouldn't if he'd been head coach of Kentucky for 8 years and only made 2 bowls.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
So what happens if Henderson gets the job and Gatreau takes a head coaching job somewhere else? Gatreau seems to be as much or more of an impact than Henderson.
Exactly, Henderson without Gautreau is not acceptable. But Gautreau as HC is a total unknown.
Wow, what a problem. But now that we know that the fantasy candidates are off the table, we will soberly pick from actually interested people.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Really I'm trying to compare Henderson to a football coach that was a failure when he got a chance to be a head coach. If there's another coordinator in the SEC who did that, you can put him into the analogy.
Shoop would get the job in that scenario -- but he probably wouldn't if he'd been head coach of Kentucky for 8 years and only made 2 bowls.
I get what you're saying, but Kentucky is a really bad baseball program. They have 7 regionals in their history. They have only 1 SR in history (2017), and it was the team Henderson built. Despite having the most draft picks the last 2 years and most top 10 round picks of any school in the country, they still missed the tourney this year. Henderson in his last 6 sec seasons has an sec record of 94-92 (.505) while battling super programs South Carolina, vandy, and Florida in the east, and coaching a rebuilding miss state team this year.
I have said repeatedly that I want to get a guy like Kirk Saarloos, but Henderson isn't near the failure that he gets painted as imo
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I get what you're saying, but Kentucky is a really bad baseball program. They have 7 regionals in their history. They have only 1 SR in history (2017), and it was the team Henderson built. Despite having the most draft picks the last 2 years and most top 10 round picks of any school in the country, they still missed the tourney this year. Henderson in his last 6 sec seasons has an sec record of 94-92 (.505) while battling super programs South Carolina, vandy, and Florida in the east, and coaching a rebuilding miss state team this year.
I have said repeatedly that I want to get a guy like Kirk Saarloos, but Henderson isn't near the failure that he gets painted as imo
He has done a good job but he took the program Cohen built and it regressed a little. Are we really to the point where we are hiring the coach UK fired?
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
He has done a good job but he took the program Cohen built and it regressed a little. Are we really to the point where we are hiring the coach UK fired?
You'll have to ask Cohen that
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You'll have to ask Cohen that
The only way that Henderson even works as the head guy is if we keep Gautreau and we hire an outstanding recruiting pitching coach. Otherwise, it won’t work.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
You'll have to ask Cohen that
I 100% trust Cohen. I would just be very worried if we gave it to Henderson and lost Gatreau.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
I 100% trust Cohen. I would just be very worried if we gave it to Henderson and lost Gatreau.
Oh man. That would be like the worst possible thing.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
I 100% trust Cohen. I would just be very worried if we gave it to Henderson and lost Gatreau.
Not sure why he'd leave. Tulane already passed him up after he was their interim. I guess a smaller school could entice him; but if he gets labeled a big time assistant, he could ride this freshmen class a couple more years and get a P5 job or even our job
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I suspect if we’re trying to tell coaches they’ve got to keep coaches on staff, then we’re stuck with Henderson. No high end coach is going for that. That means the AD, who was the baseball coach, is too hands on.
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