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    Since we are on plausible scenarios....

    C34, Ari and I were talking and 34 has an interesting take that I can stomach and I could see turning one street over from Main st...keep Henderson on for the next 2 seasons and make Gautreau as the HC in Waiting. It helps to groom Gautreau to be a HC and keeps Him from leaving in2 years if we hire butch, schloss, Godwin, Purdue or whoever. I add to that go get a young fiery good up and coming pitching guy that Jake likes to pair with him for 2021 when Henderson retires.

    I strongly believe Gautreau could be a superstar HC soon and I want it to be with us. That's why I can stomach this. I'd still want to physically assault Henderson for pitching moves, mental midgetry with pitchers, etc but for the big picture I can get with this. If this is the way we lock Gautreau up then let's do it.

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    "I don't think it is out of the realm of possibilities. I really think Cohen got blindsided by schloss. Bc Cohen missed on his guy, I could see Henderson being the guy but Gautreau be the real guy in training if you will. Let Gautreau handle recruiting and hitting with a big raise."

    I posted this on 6/4

    https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...a!!!!&p=945711

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    If we all kind of have the same idea, something isn't right haha

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    I missed that...

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    Gautreau's interview on OOB a few days ago was fantastic, damn near electric. His personality comes through even on the radio. Not only does he know what asparagus is, he can spell it (probably in Cantonese) and give you his best recipe for Hollandaise sauce. Dude, is going to be a really good HC one day.

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    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    C34, Ari and I were talking and 34 has an interesting take that I can stomach and I could see turning one street over from Main st...keep Henderson on for the next 2 seasons and make Gautreau as the HC in Waiting. It helps to groom Gautreau to be a HC and keeps Him from leaving in2 years if we hire butch, schloss, Godwin, Purdue or whoever. I add to that go get a young fiery good up and coming pitching guy that Jake likes to pair with him for 2021 when Henderson retires.

    I strongly believe Gautreau could be a superstar HC soon and I want it to be with us. That's why I can stomach this. I'd still want to physically assault Henderson for pitching moves, mental midgetry with pitchers, etc but for the big picture I can get with this. If this is the way we lock Gautreau up then let's do it.
    Good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.
    This. Gary isn't going to want the HC duties at all, so you'll basically have Jake handling anyway. And honestly, Gary isn't an elite pitching coach at this point in his career either.
    This isn't what I really want or what I'd do though. Just an option if you're going the Gautreau route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.
    I love that idea...I would also keep Henderson on in some capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.
    We can afford the best pitching coach in the country with the initial salary savings on Gautreau.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.
    I want Gautreau on staff no matter what. I do think a guy like saarloos might be a better choice as the head man though bc he has more experience at a top flight program. I can't help but think how awesome we'd be with saarloos over pitching and Gautreau over hitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.
    Keeping him as the coach in waiting allows us to retain most of his benefits (hitting coaching, recruiting) while allowing him to learn more about being an HC.

    The other thing to consider is that he's only been here a year.... Cann looked fantastic after 1 year. keeping him as the hitting coach for 2 more years means we can avoid disaster if the hitting tanks, he gets lazy in recruiting, or character issues show up. 1 year of being a good hitting coach isn't nearly as much of a vetting process as 3 is.

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    I would be fine with either this or just make Gautreau head man now and go hire the best pitching coach you can get. I guess it depends on if Cohen thinks Gautreau is ready for everything the head man has to do. How is Gautreau's selfie and rap game? How much can he bench? He seems to know how to develop our hitters. We have steadily gotten better as the season as went on which is crazy since the level of pitching has also increased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Keeping him as the coach in waiting allows us to retain most of his benefits (hitting coaching, recruiting) while allowing him to learn more about being an HC.

    The other thing to consider is that he's only been here a year.... Cann looked fantastic after 1 year. keeping him as the hitting coach for 2 more years means we can avoid disaster if the hitting tanks, he gets lazy in recruiting, or character issues show up. 1 year of being a good hitting coach isn't nearly as much of a vetting process as 3 is.
    I don't think we should treat the next coach with caution cause we hired an exceptional dumbass. Hand him the keys and let's get the ball rolling. He'll be two years ahead of himself that way.

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    That'd be fine, but I'm not sure I get why people wouldn't want Butch. He seemed to do a good job when he was here, and Auburn seems to be pretty good with him (and I don't remember them being in a great position when he got there).

    I'd rather take Butch than take a flyer on a young up and comer. If we would have to break the bank to get Butch to come back, then maybe we go a different route so we can instead break the bank on the assistant coaches. But I don't get why people are so enamored with Gautreau that they'd pass up a coach with Buth's track record to get him. Sure, he may be the next great coach. But I'd rather take a guy that seems to have proven (as much as you can in one stop) that he's a really good coach. With our stadium and support, a really good coach should be enough for us to do big things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why not just make Gautreau the head coach and hire an elite pitching coach? If we think he's this superstar just promote him.


    It sounds good, but I doubt Cohen will go in that direction after the Cann fiasco. I think he will want somebody who is in a head coaching position, although Gautreau did serve as the Interim HC at Tulane. I really think some of these elite high profile coaches showing interest possibly used us for their own benefit, and then it appeared that we more more of a high profile coaching draw than we really are at this point in time. Still waiting to see how Cohen plays this thing out.
    Last edited by yjnkdawg; 06-07-2018 at 09:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnson85 View Post
    That'd be fine, but I'm not sure I get why people wouldn't want Butch. He seemed to do a good job when he was here, and Auburn seems to be pretty good with him (and I don't remember them being in a great position when he got there).

    I'd rather take Butch than take a flyer on a young up and comer. If we would have to break the bank to get Butch to come back, then maybe we go a different route so we can instead break the bank on the assistant coaches. But I don't get why people are so enamored with Gautreau that they'd pass up a coach with Buth's track record to get him. Sure, he may be the next great coach. But I'd rather take a guy that seems to have proven (as much as you can in one stop) that he's a really good coach. With our stadium and support, a really good coach should be enough for us to do big things.
    Are we sure he'd even leave? He seems to building a nice program at auburn

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    It sounds good, but I doubt Cohen will go in that direction after the Cann fiasco. I think he will want somebody who is in a head coaching position, althought Gautreau did serve as the Interim HC at Tulane. I really think these high profile coaches possibly used us for their own benefit, and then it appeared that we more more of a high profile coaching draw than we really are at this point in time. Still waiting to see how Cohen plays this thing out.
    Be pretty wild if we hired 2 guys that Tulane passed on haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Be pretty wild if we hired 2 guys that Tulane passed on haha

    Haha 7..........I'd have to say yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Be pretty wild if we hired 2 guys that Tulane passed on haha
    It would definitely be weird but prior to February, everyone pretty much said Tulane's AD should be fired for not giving Canny the job. If Gautreau is as good of a coach and recruiter as Canny without the penis problems then I am fine with him. Until Canny got mesmerized by the poon, he was a top flight coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I seen it dawg View Post
    C34, Ari and I were talking and 34 has an interesting take that I can stomach and I could see turning one street over from Main st...keep Henderson on for the next 2 seasons and make Gautreau as the HC in Waiting. It helps to groom Gautreau to be a HC and keeps Him from leaving in2 years if we hire butch, schloss, Godwin, Purdue or whoever. I add to that go get a young fiery good up and coming pitching guy that Jake likes to pair with him for 2021 when Henderson retires.

    I strongly believe Gautreau could be a superstar HC soon and I want it to be with us. That's why I can stomach this. I'd still want to physically assault Henderson for pitching moves, mental midgetry with pitchers, etc but for the big picture I can get with this. If this is the way we lock Gautreau up then let's do it.
    Sounds like a feasible option ISID. Bet those "Game Threads" on here would have 95 pages of useful information, such as updated scores, and what is actually happening on the field. Nahhh that would be like a real "Game Thread" lol.

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