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Cohen better at least try Tadlock before he goes to Godwin. Idc if we have to wait till the CWS is over.
State baseball should not be settling and Godwin is settling to me.
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But I honestly still believe its going to be McDonnell.
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If we miss on 3-4 of our top coaching options with the type of money that we think is being offered and our facilities and history, that kinda shows we're not as elite as we think we are, IMO.
I'm fine with Godwin, just seems kinda meh after you float around all the other big names.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
But I honestly still believe its going to be McDonnell.
Yeah, that update Kendall gave was meaningless. He practically gave himself an out in both scenarios which tells me he really doesn’t know at this point.
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You guys are reaching. Mcdonnell will stay at Louisville and we will end up with prob Godwin who will win BIG here but I agree cohen should be hammered about it. Maybe next time he will learn to keep his mouth shut.
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Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
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Again, I think Godwin would be a great hire but the way cohen handled the whole deal has made me lose all kinds of respect for the job he's doing.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
Well with Cann, he was a first time head coach so wouldn't really consider that low balling.
Didn't Moorhead turn down a higher salary in order to give his assistants higher pay?
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Yeah hoping its not Godwin, would be very underwhelming.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
You do realize Moorhead said publicly he wanted less salary because he wanted to be able to get better assistants correct? And then he went out and got those good assistants.
And you do realize Cannizzaro had zero head coaching experience previous to his job with us right? That's not low ball. That's smart financial set up. You pay for proven. You incentivize the unproven.
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Kendall Rogers has not been correct yet, he tossed out some names that we all wanted to hear. He has no inside source to what happens in John Cohen's head. He is making educated guesses.
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I am sure that whoever is hired somebody is going to be unhappy. I trust that we will all support him, because he will be 'our coach'!
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
I totally disagree on the "low ball" remark. First of all, neither had HC experience other than JoMo at Fordham 2 or 3 years. Cann had none. Also, JoMo took less and it was his doings to be able to pay his assistant's more money.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
This doesn't make any sense. Were Cannizzario and Moorhead forced to take a low salary?
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
Joe Mo wanted more money for his assistant coaches instead of it going toward his salary. Looking in the crystal ball. If Joe Mo produces, as expected, he should be well compensated with a base salay increase , as well as the added incentives.
On Cann, he signed a a four-year agreement with an average salary of $533,333 per year. Pretty good increase from being an assitant coach. If the money was not what he wanted then he would have probably not agreed to sign that contract.
On Cohen, and the baseball coaching hire, baseball is basically Cohen's baby (so to speak), and conncerning his top target or maybe his second choice, I don't believe money would be a factor unless it is an unrealisitic request
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Originally Posted by
Fred Garvin
This doesn't make any sense. Were Cannizzario and Moorhead forced to take a low salary?
Cannizzario was paid pretty good for someone who had been in college baseball around 3 years and was a first time head coach. He was actually paid not too far off Tadlock at Texas Tech. Moorhead took a pay cut to get those great assistants. It wasn't like Cohen was willing to pay Mullen over $4 Mil and just decided to save money on a coach. Moorhead also is a first time Division 1 coach and he is paid enough that he took the job.
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Originally Posted by
msbulldog
Kendall Rogers has not been correct yet, he tossed out some names that we all wanted to hear. He has no inside source to what happens in John Cohen's head. He is making educated guesses.
He's also guessing what's in McDonnell's head.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Again, I think Godwin would be a great hire but the way cohen handled the whole deal has made me lose all kinds of respect for the job he's doing.
I couldnt disagree more. I love how its went from ''We cant get Schloss/Mac/Tadlock/Corbin bc of x,y,z'' then Schloss says hes out now all of a sudden Cohen sucks because one guy of the big ones pulls his name out. Cohen has done a good of a job as you could ask. I love Cohen and loved him as a coach.
Cmon man. Godwin would be very underwhelming and we can do better if we are who we say we are.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
Oh, and I'm not convinced cohen is willing to spend big. He low balled both Cannizzaro and Moorhead.
I highly doubt that Cohen told Cann or Joe Mo now this is what your contract will be and if you don't like it then I will look for somebody else. There is a thing involved called "negotiations" and for that to work, then both parties must be in agreement. So why should Cohen pay somebody more than they were in agreement to accept?. That is what you call making a good business decision by what he did, and Cohen is a good business manager.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
I couldnt disagree more. I love how its went from ''We cant get Schloss/Mac/Tadlock/Corbin bc of x,y,z'' then Schloss says hes out now all of a sudden Cohen sucks because one guy of the big ones pulls his name out. Cohen has done a good of a job as you could ask. I love Cohen and loved him as a coach.
Cmon man. Godwin would be very underwhelming and we can do better if we are who we say we are.
Agree with you Bucky. That's a little over the top Preach. We do not know what went on behind the seen with Schloss. Nothing but speculation on everyone's part. Cohen has done a great job with the hires so far. I'm not losing respect for the man, if in someone's opinion, the hire is not as spectacular as some here believe it should be. Cohen seems to be very thorough in his approach to hiring. The coach we wind up with will be more than adequate in his abilities to lead us to the promised land.
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