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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    They are stupid if they take any of the QBs at 1 or 4. Take Saquan Barkley and Bradley Chubb and ride with Tyrod or take the best QB thats there later on if you feel like you have to draft one.

    Tyrod Taylor will be the best QB the browns have had since Bernie Kosar
    That would be franchise suicide to not draft a QB. Tyrod is a year place-holder. They’ve traded back 2 years in a row for this year. Draft whatever QB you think is best. This is the best QB class in the last 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somebodyshotmypaw View Post
    Lamar Jackson is a great runner. But can he run smartly? To survive in the NFL, you have to run smartly. Dak, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, all run smartly. RG3 did not. You have to pick your spots and know when to get down, throw it away, etc.

    I'm not a Lamar Jackson fan as a first rounder.

    I saw where one NFL Analyst said that it is possible he could slip into the first round depending on teams' strategies, and if it played out just right, but more so being picked up in the second round, which seems more feasible.

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    Latest rumor is that Cleveland will choose between Mayfield and Allen at 1.
    Which brings me to another question...
    Does anyone remember a year when the number 1 pick wasn't already known in the day before the draft?
    Leads me to believe that Cleveland is about to Cleveland it all up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas_Dawg View Post
    Latest rumor is that Cleveland will choose between Mayfield and Allen at 1.
    Which brings me to another question...
    Does anyone remember a year when the number 1 pick wasn't already known in the day before the draft?
    Leads me to believe that Cleveland is about to Cleveland it all up
    Come on mane

    Cleveland has known who they are taking for at least 2 weeks.

    All the noise you hear is artificial BS made up by the media to increase interest. It's literally made up BS about nothing. The draft is a boring event that is given artificial drama and story lines to increase interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Come on mane

    Cleveland has known who they are taking for at least 2 weeks.

    All the noise you hear is artificial BS made up by the media to increase interest. It's literally made up BS about nothing. The draft is a boring event that is given artificial drama and story lines to increase interest.
    I love the nfl draft. Isn't boring to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by yjnkdawg View Post
    I saw where one NFL Analyst said that it is possible he could slip into the first round depending on teams' strategies, and if it played out just right, but more so being picked up in the second round, which seems more feasible.
    Lamar will be drafted in top 20 picks. No way he falls to 2nd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    Franchise Tag...because they don?t want to pay him what he?s asking.
    He's asking for $14 million a year and they're tagging him at $14million a year. He's getting his request.

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    I just don't think the NFL GM's know how to evaluate QB's. They are consistently looking for the next Tom Brady. It is killing them. If I was going to pick a QB who might be the next tom Brady it would Josh Allen but if I wanted a Bret Farve gunslinger it would be Mayfield. You could do the the Cowboys did two years ago and wait and maybe catch lighting in a bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    They have passed on Wentz and Watson the last 2 years. There is on way they are waiting on a QB.
    Being a Browns fan, I assure you after passing on them they will select a QB this year early and he will be an absolute bust. I have been a Browns fan since I was 12 and have yet to see them make the correct decision. It has honestly been harder being a Browns fan than it was growing up a Bulldog fan through the end of the Jackie era and all of the Croom years. I have zero confidence that they will do the right logical thing.

    It is mind boggling how many head scratching drafts they have had. You would think by shear luck they would pick a stud at some point. Even perceived good picks never work out for them.

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    If you are the Browns do you consider trading the #1 to someone like the Bills for their 1st 2 picks and maybe a 1st next year. If your evaluation of the top 4 QB's isn't too different you'll know you'll get one at 4 or could still pick Barkley or Chubb

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    He's asking for $14 million a year and they're tagging him at $14million a year. He's getting his request.
    They don't want to give him a long-term contract.

    https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/...be-overdrafted

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    I'm not even a NFL fan but after listening to all the sports talk I'll definitely be tuning in tonight. Seems like there could be some great drama!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    Lamar will be drafted in top 20 picks. No way he falls to 2nd
    Be interesting to see. I think Lamar goes in 2nd round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    They don't want to give him a long-term contract.

    https://www.numberfire.com/nfl/news/...be-overdrafted
    I know what the media is saying. However, imo if you are getting what you've asked for that's winning.

    Barkley is that type of back. He actually reminds me of Ezekiel Elliott with better balance.
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 04-26-2018 at 11:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    That would be franchise suicide to not draft a QB. Tyrod is a year place-holder. They’ve traded back 2 years in a row for this year. Draft whatever QB you think is best. This is the best QB class in the last 10 years.
    The best QB in the last 10 years? Are you smoking crack. There is not a single super star among them. Wentz and Prescott are better than any these clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wet Dawg View Post
    The best QB in the last 10 years? Are you smoking crack. There is not a single super star among them. Wentz and Prescott are better than any these clowns.
    You're wrong but okay. This class will produce 4-5 starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    You're wrong but okay. This class will produce 4-5 starters.
    So you're expecting 0-1 out of Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Jackson, and Mayfield to be NFL busts? That's pretty optimistic, as all 5 of them have serious doubters.

    Or are you expecting a sleeper like Luke Falk, Mike White, etc., to be one of the 4-5?

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    All the buzz now is that it is Mayfield at #1. We have known the number 1 pick the day before the draft every year since '04. I don't know why Cleveland is making it such a secret, but hey, Cleveland gonna Cleveland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by louisvilledawg View Post
    Don't understand the Lamar hate. I think he has potential to be a fine NFL qb.

    His stats compared to Josh Rosen:

    Completion Percentage:
    Lamar 57%
    Rosen 60%

    Yards per attempt:
    Lamar 8.3
    Rosen 8.0

    TD/Int Ratio:
    Lamar 69/27
    Josh Rosen 59/26

    Size:
    Lamar 6'3 211*
    Rosen 6'4 218*

    I think he can sit a few years and develop. I think he'll be fine.
    He's not very smart.. 13 on Wonderlic

    http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...x1r4hj3l4j9gtb

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