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    When is the last time a USC QB had even a marginally good career? Carson Palmer? I realize it's tough for any QB to make it big in the NFL, but the media seems to latch onto and place on a pedestal every USC QB with an ounce of pro potential, for no other reason than they're from USC, and scouts/teams get swept up in the frenzy. It's tough for me to believe Darnold is going to break that mold after almost 20 years of over-hyped USC QB's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    We'll see. There is a reason he is about to get drafted the top pick though.
    Doesn't mean he'd good though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    We'll see. There is a reason he is about to get drafted the top pick though.
    Darnold is the youngest player in the draft. He'll improve. He's already good enough to go #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro View Post
    Darnold is the youngest player in the draft. He'll improve. He's already good enough to go #1.
    You may absolutely be right, but I'm not sure how excited I'd be about risking a #1 overall daft pick on "He'll improve" when he just led the country in turnovers while QBing a team that had more talent on the field than anyone they played

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    I agree Barkley won't go #1. I'd prob take Mayfiekd then Barkley 4th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    Cleveland will take Darnold & Chubb.

    They don't need Barkley. RBs are very replaceable in the NFL.

    There is no f'ing way Barkley will go #1. Sorry guys.
    Barkley is not the average RB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    This is exactly what I'd do but I wouldn't of traded for Taylor and given Landry $70 mill either so Cleveland will **** this draft up like always.
    Hopefully they fix this. It has to end sometime, right?

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    Agree with Barkley #1 and Chubb #4. Dont gamble on a potential busts and take these 2 probable pro bowlers

    Get a QB in a later round and if he works out great, otherwise try again later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Agree with Barkley #1 and Chubb #4. Dont gamble on a potential busts and take these 2 probable pro bowlers

    Get a QB in a later round and if he works out great, otherwise try again later.
    They have passed on Wentz and Watson the last 2 years. There is on way they are waiting on a QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Barkley is not the average RB
    Either is LeVeon Bell. And the Steelers are refusing to pay him. It's easy to find RBs and the Browns have two adequate ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    Either is LeVeon Bell. And the Steelers are refusing to pay him. It's easy to find RBs and the Browns have two adequate ones.
    Refusing to pay him? He signed a tag for 12 million last year and set for 14 million this year. I'd say he's being paid nicely.

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    Mayfield has bust written all over him imo. I'm not saying Lamar will kill it but he's just as good as any other QB in this draft. All of the top QB's seem incredibly risky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog1 View Post
    I don't know who the Cowboys will draft. I'm sure Jerry will make the wrong choice.
    Calvin Ridley would be a good start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Calvin Ridley would be a good start.
    I bet the Cowboys take DT's Da'ron Payne or Taven Bryan first then 2 WR's after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Mayfield has bust written all over him imo. I'm not saying Lamar will kill it but he's just as good as any other QB in this draft. All of the top QB's seem incredibly risky.
    I think Darnold is the only one that will not bust out of the "top 4"

    Rosen has had two concussions. No one talks about that...Mayfield will never grow up and it'll cost him in the NFL, Josh Allen needs two years as a backup and prob won't get it. He is just like Steve McNair!

    Lamar Jackson will be Kordell Stewart or Michael Vick. Not a super bowl winner, but still awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro View Post
    Darnold is the youngest player in the draft. He'll improve. He's already good enough to go #1.
    No. Tremaine Edmunds is about eleven months younger than Darnold. And projected as a first rounder.

    Darnold - June 5, 1997
    Edmunds - May 2, 1998

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    Lamar Jackson is a great runner. But can he run smartly? To survive in the NFL, you have to run smartly. Dak, Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, all run smartly. RG3 did not. You have to pick your spots and know when to get down, throw it away, etc.

    I'm not a Lamar Jackson fan as a first rounder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big4Dawg View Post
    Either is LeVeon Bell. And the Steelers are refusing to pay him. It's easy to find RBs and the Browns have two adequate ones.
    LeVeon Bell is holding out because he is basically their #1 RB and #2 WR and he wants to be paid like it. Sammy Watkins is getting 16 Mil and probably doesn't have as many receiving yards. You can get an ok RB but elite RBs still have huge impacts. Gurley, Fournette, and Zeke all mean more to their team than any position that isn't a QB. Fournette is actually the most important position on the Jags offense. I think Barkley has that type of impact because not only is he an every down back but is also one of the better return men in the draft.

    If I was the Browns, take Barkley #1 because the Giants will take him if he is there at #2. Then you can still get a great QB at #4 if you want or you can pick Chubb then possibly trade back into the 1st if a QB is still there a little later. The Browns could always pick up someone like Mason Rudolph in the 2nd, shout out to Dickey for that thought or possibly Lamar Jackson.

    The Browns will have a possibly good pick at #4 for a QB if the guy is there that they like. You could probably get Mayfield or possibly Allen if the Giants take Darnold and Jets take Rosen. Knowing the Browns they will take Allen who ends up as a bust then the Giants take Barkley which leads Eli to his 3rd superbowl. I really don't want the Giants to get him. If they have a game breaker at RB to go with OBJ then Eli would have to throw a lot of interceptions to keep that offense from kicking ass. That would rival the Steelers Killer Bs.

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    They are stupid if they take any of the QBs at 1 or 4. Take Saquan Barkley and Bradley Chubb and ride with Tyrod or take the best QB thats there later on if you feel like you have to draft one.

    Tyrod Taylor will be the best QB the browns have had since Bernie Kosar

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Refusing to pay him? He signed a tag for 12 million last year and set for 14 million this year. I'd say he's being paid nicely.
    Franchise Tag...because they don?t want to pay him what he?s asking.

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