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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Moorhead is basically Dan Mullen without the massive douche factor...
Bartoo called Chad Morris the worst hire in the SEC yet has Arky winning one less game than us. He called Moorhead an inspired hire that proves MSU wants to take another step forward in the West, yet we will only win 7 games. His shit just doesn't make sense half the time.
Like many others, Bartoo's thinking seems to be that Mullen elevated MSU and that the team will regress to the historical mean. That line doesn't make sense, because, for all of his challenges on the recruiting trail, Mullen did a pretty good job bringing in some good players and developing others and those players didn't go with him to Gainesville.
That said, Bartoo mentioned that having a new coach can lower the expected win total, and that is possible. If we roll into the Little Apple on September 8th with an offense that commits some turnovers and isn't running smoothly (something similar happened when JoMo got to State College), a typical Bill Snyder-coached team could steal what was an expected win. That would be an example of "new coach effect." (FWIW, I'm not expecting that - our defense should be able to manage the game against a typical Bill Snyder-coached offense and our 2017 offense is closer to JoMo's than what Penn State was running before his arrival)
Last edited by AusTexDawg; 04-10-2018 at 01:28 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
Seven wins? In that case I would like to place a very public, very real, bet with Mr Bounds for $10K. I will take the over. PM me, Bo.
I was not bullshitting on 25k either. That's 35k bo put up or shut the 17 up.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
We will win 7 or more in our first 9 games. Anybody who thinks Florida is gonna leave DWS with a victory this fall has lost their damn minds. That place is going to be more electric than anything anyone has ever seen.
Dan is going to get his ass handed to him by his former team.
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Why worry about what Dave Bartoo and Bo Bounds say about MSU. All it is speculation. They aren't the ones who will be coaching or calling the plays at MSU, nor will they be the players making the plays.
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Some of the enthusiasm for this year's team seems a bit much to me. I just watched the Taxslayer Bowl again just to get another look and what I saw was a very good SEC team but not an elite one. A lot of good things have to happen for a team in the SEC West to win 10-11. Unless Fitz is 100%, Moorhead is the real deal, our WRs get separation, no key injuries happen, the D backfield continues to shine, turnovers are in a plus mode, and special teams are "special" we will be a 8-9 win team based on existing talent. But I hope a championship mentality is with this team and the Indians are at peace for a great run this year.
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Originally Posted by
TaleofTwoDogs
Some of the enthusiasm for this year's team seems a bit much to me. I just watched the Taxslayer Bowl again just to get another look and what I saw was a very good SEC team but not an elite one. A lot of good things have to happen for a team in the SEC West to win 10-11. Unless Fitz is 100%, Moorhead is the real deal, our WRs get separation, no key injuries happen, the D backfield continues to shine, turnovers are in a plus mode, and special teams are "special" we will be a 8-9 win team based on existing talent. But I hope a championship mentality is with this team and the Indians are at peace for a great run this year.
We won 8 games with a tougher schedule last year and a qb getting intentionally injured in the EB. 9 wins with 18 returning starters is the floor.
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I am Wooly--why not just win them all. I think our defense is elite. If Fitz heals up , we have an Elite QB with 2 stud hosses for running back. Our OL will be glad to block another team besides ours. I think Coaching will make a big difference in our passing game. How dangerous will Fitz be if we have a vertical passing game. Somebody' ass will get skull-drug by our Bulldog express.
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Originally Posted by
TaleofTwoDogs
Some of the enthusiasm for this year's team seems a bit much to me. I just watched the Taxslayer Bowl again just to get another look and what I saw was a very good SEC team but not an elite one. A lot of good things have to happen for a team in the SEC West to win 10-11. Unless Fitz is 100%, Moorhead is the real deal, our WRs get separation, no key injuries happen, the D backfield continues to shine, turnovers are in a plus mode, and special teams are "special" we will be a 8-9 win team based on existing talent. But I hope a championship mentality is with this team and the Indians are at peace for a great run this year.
That was last year....case closed
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Originally Posted by
TaleofTwoDogs
Some of the enthusiasm for this year's team seems a bit much to me. I just watched the Taxslayer Bowl again just to get another look and what I saw was a very good SEC team but not an elite one. A lot of good things have to happen for a team in the SEC West to win 10-11. Unless Fitz is 100%, Moorhead is the real deal, our WRs get separation, no key injuries happen, the D backfield continues to shine, turnovers are in a plus mode, and special teams are "special" we will be a 8-9 win team based on existing talent. But I hope a championship mentality is with this team and the Indians are at peace for a great run this year.
Due to the talent and spunk of this team Moorhead is going to look like the best college football coach in the country. This team is going to be impressive.
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This is just my season pronostication compilation.......
SFA............. Sure win, but important to see how our QBs and RBs are functioning together. JOMO won't show his entire hand though with Kansas St. on the horizon.
@KanState....Win, but will be an extremely tough nut to crack in Manhattan. I expect a low scoring very close affair with our defense as being the difference.
Louisiana......Sure win, but not as easy as SFA. We'll have to show up and play.
@Kentucky....Win, and as always...KY is talented. Expect a mid to higher scoring game, but like KState, our defense will prove too difficult to deal with.
Florida..........Win, welcome home Dan!
Auburn..........Loss, we stubb our toe, but it will be a close game. Stidham (Auburn's QB) is battle hardened and the Tigers always have a stout defense.
@LSU...........Win, we show why Coach O was a bad choice for LSU. Dogs enjoy a rare win in the toughest venue in college football.
TAMU...........Win, Jimbo will eventually turn the Aggies around, but not this year, and not this game. We are just better than them.
LaTech.........Win, but be careful with this one. We may not get the huge game changing plays that Simmons gave us last year. We win by 2-3 TDs. @BAMA.........Loss, playing at Tuscaloosa, playing the #1 team, and playing against the Tide with 2 very good QBs is not a recipe for a win. Close game.
ARK..............Win, should be a good game, but we have better players than them this year at least.
@Ole Miss.....Win, we will destroy the Landsharks in Oxford.....probably beat them as bad as SFA.
Notes: The games that make me nervous a bit are KState and Auburn. 10-2 would be a great season and if we were to beat Auburn and BAMA.....it would be insane!
Last edited by Pit Bull; 04-10-2018 at 02:56 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Pit Bull
SFA............. Sure win, but important to see how our QBs and RBs are functioning together. JOMO won't show his entire hand though with Kansas St. on the horizon.
@KanState....Win, but will be an extremely tough nut to crack in Manhattan. I expect a low scoring very close affair with our defense as being the difference.
Louisiana......Sure win, but not as easy as SFA. We'll have to show up and play.
@Kentucky....Win, and as always...KY is talented. Expect a mid to higher scoring game, but like KState, our defense will prove too difficult to deal with.
Florida..........Win, welcome home Dan!
Auburn..........Loss, we stubb our toe, but it will be a close game. Stidham (Auburn's QB) is battle hardened and the Tigers always have a stout defense.
@LSU...........Win, we show why Coach O was a bad choice for LSU. Dogs enjoy a rare win in the toughest venue in college football.
TAMU...........Win, Jimbo will eventually turn the Aggies around, but not this year, and not this game. We are just better than them.
LaTech.........Win, but be careful with this one. We may not get the huge game changing plays that Simmons gave us last year. We win by 2-3 TDs. @BAMA.........Loss, playing at Tuscaloosa, playing the #1 team, and playing against the Tide with 2 very good QBs is not a recipe for a win. Close game.
ARK..............Win, should be a good game, but we have better players than them this year at least.
@Ole Miss.....Win, we will destroy the Landsharks in Oxford.....probably beat them as bad as SFA.
Notes: The games that make me nervous a bit are KState and Auburn. 10-2 would be a great season and if we were to beat Auburn and BAMA.....it would be insane!
Not bad. I can see this. But, I think K State will peter out in the second half. Our talent, especially our RBs, will take over and control the game. Auburn will be an interesting game. Dan let Gus come back and beat us in two or three games where we should have had it. Let's see if Moorhead tucks his dick twixt his legs like Muffins did too many times. I highly doubt it.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
We will win 7 or more in our first 9 games. Anybody who thinks Florida is gonna leave DWS with a victory this fall has lost their damn minds. That place is going to be more electric than anything anyone has ever seen.
+1000000
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
This
It's funny when Bo makes a ridiculous prediction & he talks with that arrogant, smug voice in which he attempts to make himself sound smarter than the average fan. That's when you know he doesn't really believe what he is saying.
This team returns most every contributor to an 8 win team that should've won in 9 2017.
This team beat no one last year that it was not favored against = no fluke wins.
This team beat Louisville in a bowl game without a coaching staff. We've already seen MSU play without Mullen & they beat a Heisman winner
You mean we shouldve won 10....dont be C34 and not count the bowl game. Thats the stupidest shit I've ever seen
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Think about this:
We are the first team in SEC history to return 2 Coaches 1st Team All-SEC DL
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Think about this:
We are the first team in SEC history to return 2 Coaches 1st Team All-SEC DL
Nice.
Not sure I believe it, but there has been talk rivers is as good or better than both of them
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Originally Posted by
tcdog70
I am Wooly--why not just win them all. I think our defense is elite. If Fitz heals up , we have an Elite QB with 2 stud hosses for running back. Our OL will be glad to block another team besides ours. I think Coaching will make a big difference in our passing game. How dangerous will Fitz be if we have a vertical passing game. Somebody' ass will get skull-drug by our Bulldog express.
People need to stop with the "If Fitz heals up" line. Fitz is running in practice and is doing everything but contact drills (which no QB does in Spring football anyway). He may not be 100% yet, but there is no "if" about Fitz being back.
"After dealing with Ole Miss for over a year," he said, "I've learned to expect their leadership to do and say things that the leadership at other Division I schools would never consider doing and to justify their actions by reminding themselves that "We're Ole Miss.""
- Tom Mars, Esq. 4.9.18
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Originally Posted by
BrunswickDawg
People need to stop with the "If Fitz heals up" line. Fitz is running in practice and is doing everything but contact drills (which no QB does in Spring football anyway). He may not be 100% yet, but there is no "if" about Fitz being back.
I know he is back-but what I meant was he needs to 100% back--that remains to be seen.. I think he will be back 100%.
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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
You mean we shouldve won 10....dont be C34 and not count the bowl game. Thats the stupidest shit I've ever seen
I agree. Bowl games count on your record whether they are wins or losses. Don't know where 34 dreamed up not counting bowl games.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Nice.
Not sure I believe it, but there has been talk rivers is as good or better than both of them
Didn't he out-perform Sweat last spring?
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So this team beat LSU like a drum last year. LSU has one of the hardest schedules I have seen and he expects them to win 6, and us to win 7. Right....
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