Leave Q on the bench

[stalkingpoon]

They're not gonna call that attempt of a foul he made in that situation. He didn't even turn his body. Maybe in the regular flow of the game it gets called, but in that situation you need to make certain you get the foul on the guy. So yes, maybe in normal circumstances that is a foul, but the refs aren't gonna call that then and there.

[Covercorner2]

They're not gonna call that attempt of a foul he made in that situation. He didn't even turn his body. Maybe in the regular flow of the game it gets called, but in that situation you need to make certain you get the foul on the guy. So yes, maybe in normal circumstances that is a foul, but the refs aren't gonna call that then and there.

It's actually the opposite. If it's late in the game and you "grab" a guy, they will call it because it's obvious what you are trying to do- stop the clock.

[Percho]

You can't say with a straight face that you haven't seen that called a foul ALOT. Come on, man. Even your boy Liverpool said he grabbed him? What else did you want him to do? Give him a reach- around? aKA risk am intentional foul?

He did was he was supposed to do. And, guess what? We won. If he did more, we risk losing and this board imploding.

It was more of a foul than the one they called on Carter that gave them 3 shots.

[Covercorner2]

Get in front of him and th ref doesn't matter as much

For Q and Peters to "get in front of him," someone else would be wide open, which, again, would be dumb.

Q did his job and fouled like he was told to. Not his fault it didn't get called.

But, it ended up in a win

If fouled him even harder, he risks an intentional foul and/or he's not doing his job.

[Covercorner2]

It was more of a foul than the one they called on Carter that gave them 3 shots.

Exactly.

You don't have to mug a guy to get a foul called, especially with today's rules, AND in the waning seconds when it is OBVIOUS what you are trying to do (foul).

[stalkingpoon]

For Q and Peters to "get in front of him," someone else would be wide open, which, again, would be dumb.

Q did his job and fouled like he was told to. Not his fault it didn't get called.

But, it ended up in a win

If fouled him even harder, he risks an intentional foul and/or he's not doing his job.

No you, had the inbounds guy still coming up court behind the half court line. Thats 4 v 4 with Peters slipping down.

[stalkingpoon]

It's actually the opposite. If it's late in the game and you "grab" a guy, they will call it because it's obvious what you are trying to do- stop the clock.

Yes if you are trailing and trying to get back in the game. We were UP 3. When you're down they are looking for that grab.

[whosyourdawgy]

Q on the bench is just stupid. Having Q on the defender in last second game tying or winning shit in the line is not ideal. Mizzou Vandy and now S Carolina. In 2 of those games tho, Lamar was at fault as much as Q. Tonight he slipped and allowed dude to get momentum going and Q did a piss poor job of trying to foul him. Vandy game, Peters was totally lost in that last shot, spinning around for some reason, but Q can’t just leave him wide open for that shot and he did Mizzou, Q just got caught cheating inside in a late game scenario that made absolutely no sense. All that being said, we are no where near 21-8 right now without Q on the court for us for most of the game. He made winning plays in OT and clutch free throws to put us up 3 that sealed the W.

[stalkingpoon]

It was more of a foul than the one they called on Carter that gave them 3 shots.

This I will agree on. And I'm not disputing that it wasn't a foul. I think it definitely SHOULD have been called. However, in that situation you have to take the doubt away and not give them a free shot.

[Covercorner2]

Yes if you are trailing and trying to get back in the game. We were UP 3. When you're down they are looking for that grab.

They should also be looking for us to foul in that situation? What is different?

You are just trying to make this fit your narrative.

If anything, you would think the refs would be cognizant to that situation. Same with Q, and that's why you can't be too overzealous.

[Covercorner2]

This I will agree on. And I'm not disputing that it wasn't a foul. I think it definitely SHOULD have been called. However, in that situation you have to take the doubt away and not give them a free shot.

So risk an intentional foul?

You are agreeing that Q did his job and the refs ****ed up. Like end it there.

I guess Q should have gone above and beyond what he was told and coached to do. Come on, man.

[whosyourdawgy]

So risk an intentional foul?

You are agreeing that Q did his job and the refs ****ed up. Like end it there.

Lot of this is on Howland too imo. He should’ve told that side official close to him that we were gonna foul before they get a3 off. Also our players shoulda been screaming foul foul foul when Q was grabbing him. Lamar slipping screwed thar play all up too

[stalkingpoon]

I'm not blowing the whistle. The refs are. If he did his job we aren't in OT. His effort was piss poor on that play, that's been his story this year. And no narrative just would like to see some type of effort from him on that play with the NCCAT on the line. If you're satisfied with his play then that is great, but he's burned us once at the buzzer and did it again today.

[Bulldog1]

So risk an intentional foul?

You are agreeing that Q did his job and the refs ****ed up. Like end it there.

I guess Q should have gone above and beyond what he was told and coached to do. Come on, man.

A blocking foul IS NOT an intentional foul. If he stayed in front, it’s a block or a charge. Either way, it’s not an intentional foul

[Bulldog1]

So you have to "stay in front of him" to send a guy to the line late? I must be watching a different game.

No, but my point is that if he stayed in front of him, it?s a block or charge- not intentional.

[Covercorner2]

Lot of this is on Howland too imo. He should’ve told that side official close to him that we were gonna foul before they get a3 off. Also our players shoulda been screaming foul foul foul when Q was grabbing him. Lamar slipping screwed thar play all up too

Q did. Watch the replay. He was pissed they didn't call it.

[Coach34]

For Q and Peters to "get in front of him," someone else would be wide open, which, again, would be dumb. .

no- he guy that threw the ball in never even made it to half court. They only had 4 offensive players

[Covercorner2]

No, but my point is that if he stayed in front of him, it?s a block or charge- not intentional.

It wasn't even his man! He did what he was coached to do- grab him and foul. And he did.

Again, whole point of this thread. Believe it or not, he is not Superman.

If anything, blame Lamar.

[confucius say]

he only had 4 steals- which is still good

Which is I why I phrased it steals responsible for. He had 4 steals and knocked two loose that his teammates then possessed and got credit for.

[Coach34]

So what? He rotated over and should have stopped the ball. Just like his ****-up with Vandy- the guy with the ball is the most dangerous