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					  Originally Posted by  sandwolf  
 They cannot just go back to doing business as usual. Getting caught again in the repeat offender window would be a disaster. 
 
 
 Hahahahahah. Why? They only got caught payin leo. The rest was petty stuff. They are back on full bore.  Don't kid yourself
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-17-2018, 04:17 PM
				
			
			
				
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					02-17-2018, 07:48 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Ifyouonlyknew  
 
 
 
 Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-17-2018, 08:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bdawg  
 Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though. 
 
 
 If we can get an in at Hewitt Trussville we should do it. They have been full of talent the last couple of years and will continue to be. Pierce Quick would be a huge get and even though I don’t expect to get him, it’s nothing but positives having a kid like that on campus. We need to continue having kids like that on campus.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-17-2018, 08:09 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Bdawg  
 Very nice to see but not sure bout wasting time on an AL commit from AL. Sure hope we pick it up in this area of recruiting though. 
 
 
 Yeah, unless bama drops him, we are not getting that kid
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 12:22 PM
				
			
			
				
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							so back to stuff other than baseball - how do we feel about how Jr. Day went?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 01:19 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Irondawg  
 so back to stuff other than baseball - how do we feel about how Jr. Day went? 
 
 
 It went  better than planned.
 And that?s not just ?coach speak? from what I  was told.
 
 I’m really looking forward to laying my eyes on the big board for 2019..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 03:46 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Homedawg  
 Hahahahahah. Why? They only got caught payin leo. The rest was petty stuff. They are back on full bore.  Don't kid yourself 
 
 
 I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 04:12 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  sandwolf  
 I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years. 
 
 
 I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 04:55 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  vv83  
 I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status 
 
 
 They won’t pull back , but that place got exposed. It’s  not the place they protray it to be and more and more kids. parents and coaches  are seeing that.
 
 And losing Freeze was a huge blow. No matter what anyone says Matt Luke isn’t a SEC calibure head guy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 07:03 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  sandwolf  
 I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years. 
 
 
 I don't know if you are a Beverly Hillbilly, but the loss of 8M in bowl revenue and 2-3M in legal fees is a major hit to me!  The unofficial visit restriction (if it can be enforced) is a major handicap as all other schools can offer unlimited visits.  Time on campuses is an important recruiting tool.
 
 
 
 
				
				
				
					
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					02-20-2018, 11:24 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  vv83  
 I disagree with everything except for the repeat violator part. I don't think they slow down at all. Hopefully they get hit harder on the repeat status 
 
 
 Look at their last two classes.  Even this year they tried to do what they do at the end and they pretty much whiffed and finished below Dan Mullen.
 
 At that was with a super recruit 4 star QB inflating their rating a lot.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-20-2018, 11:25 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Ari Gold  
 It went  better than planned. 
 And that?s not just ?coach speak? from what I  was told.
 
 I’m really looking forward to laying my eyes on the big board for 2019..
 
 
 
 I am too.  They have me thinking that our recruiting ceiling may be way higher than I realized.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-21-2018, 10:03 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  msbulldog  
 I don't know if you are a Beverly Hillbilly, but the loss of 8M in bowl revenue and 2-3M in legal fees is a major hit to me!  The unofficial visit restriction (if it can be enforced) is a major handicap as all other schools can offer unlimited visits.  Time on campuses is an important recruiting tool. 
 
 
 Don’t they get that money at the end of their suspension though?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-21-2018, 11:09 AM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  sandwolf  
 I know that we like to act like they got slapped on the wrist (and they did from a scholarship standpoint), but between the cloud of the investigation, losing Freeze, diminished fan support/donations/attendance, the cost of defending themselves, the 2 year bowl ban and all of the less sexy sanctions, it was a huge blow to their football program. If they were to get caught again, inside the repeat violator window, it would be disastrous. I'm not saying they won't cut any corners, but they absolutely will tone it way down for the next few years. 
 
 
 They got hit, but there is nothing hindering them going forward other than maybe potential coaches being scared of recruiting under extra scrutiny that may or may not be present.
 
 But Ole Miss is going to push forward with recruiting the way they always have instate.  They will probably continue out of state too except when they are going head to head against a blue blood.  So they may not be pulling recruits away from Bama or UGA, but they will make sure they are doing what it takes to get the recruits who are 26-35 on their boards, which if they have any coaching will be enough to ensure they stay relevant.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-21-2018, 12:49 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Montravius Richardson?  That name sounds familiar.  Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school?  Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					02-21-2018, 12:51 PM
				
			
			
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Johnson85  
 Montravius Richardson?  That name sounds familiar.  Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school?  Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out? 
 
 
 We signed him, but he did not qualify
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Johnson85  
 Montravius Richardson?  That name sounds familiar.  Is that somebody we were recruiting out of high school?  Or does he just sound like the RB under Mullen that ended up transferring out? 
 
 
 OL that went JUCO. Think he was from the 2017 class
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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							Was Richardson rated low bc he was a longshot to qualify?
						 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Dawgology  
 Don’t they get that money at the end of their suspension though? 
 
 
 That's why I said only 8M.  They get 2 years @ 8M/year (if they lose the appeal) or 16M, at the end of probation they get  50% back, but they lose the other 50%.  At least that's how it used to work.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
	
		
		
			
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