Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

[dawgoneyall]

Does Sankey really wanna go anti-gun in the Deep South? He is a native New Yorker.

He (Sankey) needs to go now.


But no one needs to carry a weapon to/into an athletic event (except the obvious).

[Coach007]

None of those things would result in MSU not having any home games or getting kicked out of the SEC.

So you choose extortion over rights?

[Coach007]

No, because I value my rights over a game in the end.

[Dawg61]

Looks guys this isn't new. The state of Arkansas and University of Arkansas already dealt with this same exact threat from Sankey. The Piggies just made the guns illegal to bring into the stadiums. We will do the same thing. All you blowhards ain't gonna do shit when MSU does the same exact thing Arkansas just did. You aren't going to get MSU kicked outta the SEC because you ain't about to have a million people all over your ass about it. You can act tough on a message board but when the entire Mississippi State alumni, fanbase and millions of mouths reliant on MSU being in the SEC are coming for you you won't be wanting to bring your peashooter into any stadiums any decade soon.

[Liverpooldawg]

And that happening is far from a certainty. I?m sure Sankey would threaten it and may actually try it. I just don?t think it would be successful. Whoever mentioned trying to make campus private property I could see that being tried and, if successful, would then allow them to legally ban them. The catch 22 is if they go private do they lose public funding?

If a majority of the university presidents of the membership vote so then he absolutely would be successful, and no lawsuits would overturn it, it's settled law. I can predict that votes outcome and you can too. The only way you can make the campus private is by legislative approval, and we would lose public funding from the state. That would make no difference whatsoever to the SEC. all they care about is their law. It might ease your sensibilities if a private entity did the banning, but that would essentially kill off MSU as we know it. Is that what you really want? Come on man, just allow an exception for SEC venues like Arkansas did. It's comman sense. Even if you can't see that surely you can see the benefit to our athletics to being a full member of the SEC. The secret to a good and functioning country, family, and world is compromise. How did we ever lose that? My personal contemporary hero, Ronald Reagan, knew that. So did, believe it or not, Bill Clinton.

[starkvegasdawg]

I mentioned it and I am saying just make the stadiums private property not the entire campus.

Could be a potential option but they?d have to make sure no public funds are used in upkeep and maintenance.

Right now I just refuse to freak out over this. If the bill passes I really don?t think MSU and TSUN will get kicked out of the SEC just like I doubt every other college in the state will get kicked out of their conferences. There may be a lot of posturing, threats, and bravado slung around, but at the end of the day they?re going to realize it?s been happening for years without incident. I?ve never carried a gun on my person while on campus and not saying I?ll try anytime soon. But the thought of knowing I was at a game where an EC holder did have one does not bother me in the least. Everybody been calling me paranoid and scared and I think I?m about the least paranoid and scared person that has posted on this thread.

[BeardoMSU]

No, because I value my rights over a game in the end.

Yet going to the game is a choice in the end, yes?

[msstate7]

Looks guys this isn't new. The state of Arkansas and University of Arkansas already dealt with this same exact threat from Sankey. The Piggies just made the guns illegal to bring into the stadiums. We will do the same thing. All you blowhards ain't gonna do shit when MSU does the same exact thing Arkansas just did. You aren't going to get MSU kicked outta the SEC because you ain't about to have a million people all over your ass about it. You can act tough on a message board but when the entire Mississippi State alumni, fanbase and millions of mouths reliant on MSU being in the SEC are coming for you you won't be wanting to bring your peashooter into any stadiums any decade soon.

Not that I think the sec would kick us out over this crap, but what is the removal process for a charter member (us and om) vs a non-charter (ark)? Is it the same? Again, we are not getting kicked out... just curious

[starkvegasdawg]

Looks guys this isn't new. The state of Arkansas and University of Arkansas already dealt with this same exact threat from Sankey. The Piggies just made the guns illegal to bring into the stadiums. We will do the same thing. All you blowhards ain't gonna do shit when MSU does the same exact thing Arkansas just did. You aren't going to get MSU kicked outta the SEC because you ain't about to have a million people all over your ass about it. You can act tough on a message board but when the entire Mississippi State alumni, fanbase and millions of mouths reliant on MSU being in the SEC are coming for you you won't be wanting to bring your peashooter into any stadiums any decade soon.

You are right. If they find a way to legally ban guns from the stadium then I?ll never attempt to bring it on campus. All I ask is that it be done legally. Right now they?re doing so illegally.

[Coach007]

The only negative here that matters is MSU not having any home games and potentially getting kicked out of the SEC. obviously you guys want that.

No, obviously what I want is my rights should I choose to exercise them and for the SEC TYRANT to not infringe on them and many courts have already ruled!

And I object to the only thing that matters is MSU getting kick out. I value my rights WAY more than sports.

[BeardoMSU]

SEC TYRANT

Being a member of the best athletic conference in the country is a privilege, not a right....

[Dawg61]

Not that I think the sec would kick us out over this crap, but what is the removal process for a charter member (us and om) vs a non-charter (ark)? Is it the same? Again, we are not getting kicked out... just curious

We aren't getting removed from the SEC over guns. We might get removed for other things but it won't be over guns cause that will cause every gun nut in the entire country to come to MSU's aid. Sankey don't want this. He hasn't thought this through enough.

[starkvegasdawg]

Being a member of the best athletic conference in the country is a privilege, not a right....

And if this passes we will still be a member.

[BeardoMSU]

We aren't getting removed from the SEC over guns. We might get removed for other things

You're probably right. If anything, it'll be our house sigil that ****s us in the end...

[Liverpooldawg]

I love miss state sports and being in the sec, but I would not give up my rights to stay a member. The state of miss allows it... why should the sec override them? For the record, I do not own 1 gun.

For the record I and my family own a bunch of them. I grew up with them, I have no memory of the first time I shot one, I just always have. I keep one in my office and a bunch in my home. I will never give them up. When it comes to ballgames and guns, esp college games where copious amounts of alcohol are always involved, it's just common sense to leave the guns to the professionals. I've just seen too many otherwise reasonable and responsible people, like the people who have enhanced carry, go stark raving crazy at games, and many of those were sober. Heck I've done it. I wouldn't trust myself with a gun at an Ole Miss game and nearly everyone that knows me would. Emotions are much more powerful than any drug. I never cry at all, even for death in the family, but sports, esp where MSU, my old high school, and a few other teams I am attached too are concerned the tears will always flow at big moments. That's damn stupid and juvinile I know, but it is what it is. I'm not alone. History proves that. Do a little digging on the Roman Empire, esp in the East at Constanople. If you say you would never lose control at a ballgame, you are either totally deluded and need to be protected from yourself, or you are a liar.

[Dawg61]

You are right. If they find a way to legally ban guns from the stadium then I?ll never attempt to bring it on campus. All I ask is that it be done legally. Right now they?re doing so illegally.

Have they not allowed people in that have guns yet? Seems like they haven't done anything illegal yet and what's stopping them from not allowing those people in for other reasons besides having a gun on them? "oh you have a gun well I think you're drunk so I can't let you in sorry sir come back when you sober up".

[Coach007]

We wouldn't go quietly, neither does the man who has to be drug to the electric chair, but he goes anyway. This is settled law. If you don't like the rules of a voluntary organization you can get out, nobody is forcing you to stay. Since your vote is to get out of the SEC over this if it comes to it, what should we do next? What conference can we join and let you keep you guns in the stadium?

I beg to differ. Let's please take this to the SCOTUS.

[BeardoMSU]

I beg to differ. Let's please take this to the SCOTUS.

Jesus....dramatic much?

[Liverpooldawg]

We aren't getting removed from the SEC over guns. We might get removed for other things but it won't be over guns cause that will cause every gun nut in the entire country to come to MSU's aid. Sankey don't want this. He hasn't thought this through enough.

Actually 61, no SEC commisoner has ever issued such a strong statement except to us, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Arkansas and had sense enough to amend their law. Hopefully we do.

[Coach007]

He (Sankey) needs to go now.


But no one needs to carry a weapon to/into an athletic event (except the obvious).

University of Utah has been allowing it well over a decade...