Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

[BrunswickDawg]

I'm as conservative as Scalia, and I agree with his opinions on this.

And I?m a gun owner who enjoys shooting, and has taught his children to shoot,who is somewhere to the left of Bernie Sanders, and I do as well. You want a concealed carry permit, there should be licensing, training, and qualifications. You want enhanced cc, then that level of training needs to be at a very high level - boarderline professional. You want to collect and shoot military grade weapons - then you need all of that, secure storage, and insurance. I?d bet most of you have similar opinions. Letting ALEC and the NRA push us into guns, guns everywhere is just as bad as many liberals push to take them away.

[starkvegasdawg]

It is, but it's also legal for a stadium to set its own rules against it. They won't arrest you and can't, but they can eject you from the stadium. It's not illegal to be a total jerk at a game either, but it it can get you thrown out. I almost got thrown out up at Oxford for throwing a cup when I was a student . That sure as heck ain't illegal, but it will get you thrown out. I may have missed my calling, I talked my way out of it like a public defender!) I even had a enhanced carry instructor tell me that individual venues can set their own rules, fairly recently. He knew what he was talking about. If t wasn't ok to deny entry then this bill would never have come up since that is EXACTLY what it is trying to change.

No business or entity can set policy contrary to existing law. Back to my example, if a business or stadium could do that then Keenum could decide to set policy at DWS that they will sell alcohol and to maximize profits they?ll set the drinking age at the game at 16.

To your example, throwing a cup could be considered assault or disturbing the peace.

All this bill is doing is allowing enhanced carriers a legal recourse if they were denied to do what they are legally guaranteed to do. They stated multiple times this bill does not change the law.

[Dawg61]

I agree that's all we need to do, but read the letter 61. He wasn't talking about other conferences, he was talking about SEC members refusing to play here. That is explicit in the letter. It also sounded like a veiled threat to our memebership, to me anyway.

You're getting yourself riled up over something that will be worked out long before it would ever get close to MSU getting kicked out of the SEC. Here read this thread it'll calm your tits.

https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-foo...pass/75314754/

[Spiderman]

I think this is an extremely dumb idea for many reasons but I don't carry so I don't study the numbers. Out of curiosity what is a guess at the number of enhanced carry license holders that would be in Davis Wade during an SEC game?

I have been since it became law.

This isn't NEW... everyone needs to understand that

[Liverpooldawg]

And I?m a gun owner who enjoys shooting, and has taught his children to shoot,who is somewhere to the left of Bernie Sanders, and I do as well. You want a concealed carry permit, there should be licensing, training, and qualifications. You want enhanced cc, then that level of training needs to be at a very high level - boarderline professional. You want to collect and shoot military grade weapons - then you need all of that, secure storage, and insurance. I?d bet most of you have similar opinions. Letting ALEC and the NRA push us into guns, guns everywhere is just as bad as many liberals push to take them away.

Very sensible.

[Liverpooldawg]

You're getting yourself riled up over something that will be worked out long before it would ever get close to MSU getting kicked out of the SEC. Here read this thread it'll calm your tits.

https://www.secrant.com/rant/sec-foo...pass/75314754/

I agree it will, but it won't if we don't voice opposition to it as is. I think you would agree with that.

[Liverpooldawg]

I have been since it became law.

This isn't NEW... everyone needs to understand that

Then you are in violation of the terms of the contract that your ticket is. MSU could sue YOU.

[Spiderman]

You have no need for a weapon in a sporting event or courthouse. Sorry.

Soory, you are wrong

[Liverpooldawg]

Soory, you are wrong

So what is your need, esp at a guarded courthouse with metal detectors? If I was a judge I would resign if this passes. I suspect many will.

[Spiderman]

Then you are in violation of the terms of the contract that your ticket is. MSU could sue YOU.

No they can't, if they frisked me and found the weapon, all they can do is ask me to leave.

[Dolphus Raymond]

The fact that our "leaders" are even considering such moronic legislation says all that really needs to be said about why Mississippi continues to be mired in economic and social backwardness. Mississippi allows itself to be victimized by poor leadership, while we continue to allow, and even encourage it. There is really nothing else that needs to be said. Pathetic.

[Liverpooldawg]

No they can't, if they frisked me and found the weapon, all they can do is ask me to leave.

If you got in the stadium you would be in breach of contract. They would ask you to leave, and force you to if you refused. And if you had to be forced then they COULD prosecute you.

[BrunswickDawg]

The fact that our "leaders" are even considering such moronic legislation says all that really needs to be said about why Mississippi continues to be mired in economic and social backwardness. Mississippi allows itself to be victimized by poor leadership, while we continue to allow, and even encourage it. There is really nothing else that needs to be said. Pathetic.

I guarantee they won?t let you bring your gun into the Capitol Building, because they should be secure...

[Liverpooldawg]

No business or entity can set policy contrary to existing law. Back to my example, if a business or stadium could do that then Keenum could decide to set policy at DWS that they will sell alcohol and to maximize profits they?ll set the drinking age at the game at 16.

To your example, throwing a cup could be considered assault or disturbing the peace.

All this bill is doing is allowing enhanced carriers a legal recourse if they were denied to do what they are legally guaranteed to do. They stated multiple times this bill does not change the law.

It DOES change the law. It effectively removes the rihpght of businesses and others to set their own rules for attendance. The courts have repeatedly said that governments and private entities DO have the right to regulate firearms in a reasonable manner. If this passes it will be challenged in federal court by MSU and Ole Miss and numerous private entities. They WILL win. It's stupid and foolish, and ultimately futile.

[Spiderman]

If you got in the stadium you would be in breach of contract. They would ask you to leave, and force you to if you refused. And if you had to be forced then they COULD prosecute you.

I wouldn't refuse.

But I'd still not be in violation of state law, unlike everyone who smuggles in whiskey, or has it delivered to the club level and skyboxes

[Spiderman]

I guarantee they won?t let you bring your gun into the Capitol Building, because they should be secure...

Wrong, I have. Just can't carry it into the floor while in session

[BrunswickDawg]

Wrong, I have. Just can't carry it into the floor while in session

That?s surprising. Georgia Legislature made them legal on campus, but banned them from the Capitol in the same bill. They don?t believe in irony.

[Spiderman]

That?s surprising. Georgia Legislature made them legal on campus, but banned them from the Capitol in the same bill. They don?t believe in irony.

Read the law, it's been there for years, everybody is wigging out because most just now realize it's been law.

All this is gonna do now is slow down the lines to get in the stadium because they will now probaly start frisking everybody.

and there is a major difference in a concealed carry permit and the Enhanced permit. Only pertains to EC's

[Liverpooldawg]

I guarantee they won?t let you bring your gun into the Capitol Building, because they should be secure...

Actually there was a Democratic Senator brandishing an unloaded one on the Senate floor this morning.

[Liverpooldawg]

I wouldn't refuse.

But I'd still not be in violation of state law, unlike everyone who smuggles in whiskey, or has it delivered to the club level and skyboxes

But you would be in violation of your contract, and one everybody is serious about, unlike the alcholol rules.