Sankey?s Letter in the gun law.....

[Lord McBuckethead]

Oh yeah, I will carry my gun wherever I want, concealed or not. Wherever I want I tell you.

Just kidding. I do not believe people should have guns in the stands at any sporting event. They also should have metal detectors at the entrances as well. Especially at Ole Miss.

[Commercecomet24]

If somebody gets shot by a drunken fan at an SEC game who do you think would be libel?

The last thing I'm gonna say on this. While I don't support letting people bring weapons to games, I also don't support the SEC or the NCAA, who have proven time and time again that they are corrupt, deciding what happens in government. They have no problem with the buying and selling of players, players being offered prostitutes, drugs and any number of enticements, and the SEC and NCAA blindly turns the other way and pretends that nothing happened. That's the problem I have with the SEC and NCAA getting involved.

[Saltydog]

at the games in Oxford.

[starkvegasdawg]

This law does not suddenly allow concealed carry in stadiums with enhanced carry. That had been legal for years and is backed by an opinion from AG Jim Hood. What this law is doing is allowing you to sue if your legal rights are violated. Don?t like the fact an enhanced carry holder can legally carry in DWS, lobby to change that law. This one is just giving people who have their rights violated a method of fighting back.

[BrunswickDawg]

Oh yeah, I will carry my gun wherever I want, concealed or not. Wherever I want I tell you.

Just kidding. I do not believe people should have guns in the stands at any sporting event. They also should have metal detectors at the entrances as well. Especially at Ole Miss.

I've thought that it was interesting Scalia - potentially the most conservative Justice ever to serve on the Supreme Court - believed in the the ability of the government to regulate firearms, writing in Heller “Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms", “like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.” It is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

[Tbonewannabe]

I've thought that it was interesting Scalia - potentially the most conservative Justice ever to serve on the Supreme Court - believed in the the ability of the government to regulate firearms, writing in Heller “Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms", “like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.” It is “not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”

There would be a lot more people rocking gatling guns if this was the case. Who doesn't want to walk around with the gun from Predator? The Constitution was written at a time that a gun gave you the ability to get food as much as anything else. The fore fathers didn't have an idea automatic weapons were a thing. It would be like if the government eliminated any gun that could shoot more than once an hour and someone had a death ray that could level a city. People would still say the death ray was legal and fight for it.

[starkvegasdawg]

There would be a lot more people rocking gatling guns if this was the case. Who doesn't want to walk around with the gun from Predator? The Constitution was written at a time that a gun gave you the ability to get food as much as anything else. The fore fathers didn't have an idea automatic weapons were a thing. It would be like if the government eliminated any gun that could shoot more than once an hour and someone had a death ray that could level a city. People would still say the death ray was legal and fight for it.

The second amendment was not written about hunting. It was about the citizens being to defend themselves against an over reaching govt.

[BrunswickDawg]

The second amendment was not written about hunting. It was about the citizens being to defend themselves against an over reaching govt.

Wrong. Based on norms of the time, all able bodied men were expected to serve in government or state sponsored militias when the need arose. This would augment the inability of Congress to raise a regular army. Congress could only implement and fund a raised Army for a 2 year period. By allowing the ownership of common weapons of the day - muskets - it guaranteed that the government would have a defense force always available without having to arm them, and without having to infringe upon that 2 year limit. Now, it so happened that the Colonist used the Militias create by the British to protect the colonies to create an army and rise up against a tyrannical government. However, there is a large distinction between a tyrannical government and government overreach

[BuckyIsAB****]

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So, today right after the House voted 80-29 to pass HB 1083, this carefully worded letter was released by the SEC. Two things are immediately obvious: 1) the SEC must not know that our State enhanced carry law has permitted concealed carry on campus including ball games since the passage of HB 506 in 2011; and 2) someone in the higher echelons of state bureaucracy is coordinating or attempting to coordinate a partial repeal of our State gun laws by veiled threats such as this. Only 29 Democrats voted against the bill today. Everyone who fought the bill today voted for it in 2011.

Is this evidence of the "deep state" manipulating and working against the people?

I was about to say, they've been in games and stadiums since that last bill passed. Sankey needs to worry about getting teams into the NCAA tourney or something not guns at MS college football games

[RocketDawg]

Does Sankey really wanna go anti-gun in the Deep South? He is a native New Yorker.

I usually agree with you 7, but are you saying that people in the "Deep South" (I hate that term) are dumber than those from New York? People in the US are pretty much the same, regardless from what state they're from.

To clarify ... I'm not anti-gun. But I'm also not for every Tom, Dick, and Harry being able to carry a loaded handgun around with them like it was still the old Wild West.

From what I've heard, at just about every game there is some sort of fight going on. Can you imagine what things would be like if those drunks had quick access to a gun? Making it legal to carry a loaded gun into Davis Wade or any other sports venue might well be the deciding factor as to whether I buy season tickets, or just stay in the safety of my living room.

I've heard people talking about how the military qualifies them to be gun toters. That's not true. I did 21 years in the Navy and shot a rifle once in basic training and once because I voluntarily wanted to go to the range and qualify for a ribbon.

[Liverpooldawg]

When did they start selling alcohol at games? Oh that's right, they don't.

Who's to say that guns aren't already in the stadium?

Pathetic that drunk fans are an argument against it and yet selling beer at stadiums is not even considered.

Are you claiming there is no drinking at tailgates?

[Liverpooldawg]

Bottom line is, no matter how you feel on this, if this law passes as is we may be kicked out of the SEC. At the least we won't be playing in SEC home games. Just amend the law to exempt SEC stadiums.

Again I'm as pro gun as it comes but I've seen too much stuff at ball games over the years. A lot of it was from otherwise reasonable and responsible people. We don't need guns at sporting events except in the hands of law enforcement officers.

[Duckdog]

that passed the Mississippi house leaves little doubt that we will no longer be able to have SEC home games if athletic events aren?t exempted. It also hints that we might be removed from the SEC. I favor gun rights but this law is just stupid. Guns have no place in the hands of drunk fans at an athletic event.

if you're drunk and concealed carrying then you are breaking the law. also learn the 2nd amendment please

[starkvegasdawg]

Bottom line is, no matter how you feel on this, if this law passes as is we may be kicked out of the SEC. At the least we won't be playing in SEC home games. Just amend the law to exempt SEC stadiums.

Again I'm as pro gun as it comes but I've seen too much stuff at ball games over the years. A lot of it was from otherwise reasonable and responsible people. We don't need guns at sporting events except in the hands of law enforcement officers.

That?s the misconception. This law is not legalizing carry in stadiums. It?s been legal since 2011.

[Duckdog]

This is NOT about law enforcement officers.

You Sir, still don't get it

[Duckdog]

I kind of find it interesting that 2nd Amendment advocates, the NRA, and the republicans allow any restriction to me carrying a weapon hidden or otherwise, anywhere inside the country's boarders. Its like I have to have this certain permit to do such things the constitution already arguably allows me to do.
Sounds like their should be either an amendment to the constitution or.....this shouldn't be a law. People do know that is how we actually change the rules right. By amending the US Constitution.

AMEN this boy gets it

[RougeDawg]

I usually agree with you 7, but are you saying that people in the "Deep South" (I hate that term) are dumber than those from New York? People in the US are pretty much the same, regardless from what state they're from.

To clarify ... I'm not anti-gun. But I'm also not for every Tom, Dick, and Harry being able to carry a loaded handgun around with them like it was still the old Wild West.

From what I've heard, at just about every game there is some sort of fight going on. Can you imagine what things would be like if those drunks had quick access to a gun? Making it legal to carry a loaded gun into Davis Wade or any other sports venue might well be the deciding factor as to whether I buy season tickets, or just stay in the safety of my living room.

I've heard people talking about how the military qualifies them to be gun toters. That's not true. I did 21 years in the Navy and shot a rifle once in basic training and once because I voluntarily wanted to go to the range and qualify for a ribbon.

Tell me this post is sarcastic? You don?t really believe what you wrote do you? There are already laws preventing that which you are soooooo scared of. This law does not pertain to it. Stop reading and interpreting the way the media wants you to and start looking at things logically.

This law states that off duty law enforcement and their civilian equivalents can do that which the law already permits them to do in public spaces. Ask any off duty law enforcement if they go out on the town packing? Anyone who thinks this to be commonplace is highly ignorant of the mindset of CCL and ECL permit holders.

This law doesn?t state that any Tom, Dick, or Harry can Willy nilly bring a gun into an event. Laws already prevent concealed carry anywhere outside of your property or vehicle, if you don?t have a permit. If someone does this they are already breaking the law. This law protects those of us who have actually taken the training and understand the responsibility of the privilege we were granted to conceal carry. Every CCL and ECL holder I know, takes this seriously and doesn?t carry if they will be drinking anything at all. Plus you cannot legally carry into an establishment that makes more than 50% of revenue on alcohol sales if you are drinking or not.

Every time these arguments arise the media gets the same public outrage because they play to the ignorance of the public regarding gun laws. The responses in this thread are exactly the reason they present the topic in the manner they do. They target the public ignorance and know most people will follow along and believe this false narrative.

Theads like this tempt me to just drain my 401k and let a rip, because the nation is doomed due to widespread ignorance on most important issues but these same people can tell you within 14 seconds how many months pregnant the Kardashians are. I wish people would research topics upon which they are ignorant instead of spouting off and regurgitating the main stream Media?s talking points. We?d all be a whole hell of a lot better off for it.

[RougeDawg]

I've thought that it was interesting Scalia - potentially the most conservative Justice ever to serve on the Supreme Court - believed in the the ability of the government to regulate firearms, writing in Heller ?Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms", ?like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited.? It is ?not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.?

Your interpretation of Scalia?s opinion means you believe that law enforcement cannot carry in these areas as well? Correct?

This state law is simply saying that off duty enforcement and their citizen equivalents can carry in these places. You can?t have it both ways, and I?m still waiting f for someone to tell me the difference in a police office who gets off st 5 pm, from 4:59 pm to 5:01 pm? What changes so much about that person that they are now denied the ability to carry their firearm into an area 2 minutes before they could? This is the the law in its simplest form.

[BeardoMSU]

Tell me this post is sarcastic? You don?t really believe what you wrote do you? There are already laws preventing that which you are soooooo scared of. This law does not pertain to it. Stop reading and interpreting the way the media wants you to and start looking at things logically.

This law states that off duty law enforcement and their civilian equivalents can do that which the law already permits them to do in public spaces. Ask any off duty law enforcement if they go out on the town packing? Anyone who thinks this to be commonplace is highly ignorant of the mindset of CCL and ECL permit holders.

This law doesn?t state that any Tom, Dick, or Harry can Willy nilly bring a gun into an event. Laws already prevent concealed carry anywhere outside of your property or vehicle, if you don?t have a permit. If someone does this they are already breaking the law. This law protects those of us who have actually taken the training and understand the responsibility of the privilege we were granted to conceal carry. Every CCL and ECL holder I know, takes this seriously and doesn?t carry if they will be drinking anything at all. Plus you cannot legally carry into an establishment that makes more than 50% of revenue on alcohol sales if you are drinking or not.

Every time these arguments arise the media gets the same public outrage because they play to the ignorance of the public regarding gun laws. The responses in this thread are exactly the reason they present the topic in the manner they do. They target the public ignorance and know most people will follow along and believe this false narrative.

Theads like this tempt me to just drain my 401k and let a rip, because the nation is doomed due to widespread ignorance on most important issues but these same people can tell you within 14 seconds how many months pregnant the Kardashians are. I wish people would research topics upon which they are ignorant instead of spouting off and regurgitating the main stream Media?s talking points. We?d all be a whole hell of a lot better off for it.

Did you go to the Steven A. Smith school for bloviation? You should really consider learning how to condense your thoughts into a few sentences. This is the second "book" you've written in this thread alone...

[Liverpooldawg]

if you're drunk and concealed carrying then you are breaking the law. also learn the 2nd amendment please

I know it inside out and am a BIG supporter of gun rights. I am aware it is against the law to carry drunk. I'm also aware that it happens. This is just asinine and against all common sense. However if you want us to play every SEC game on the road then by all means back this bill.