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Originally Posted by
MrKotter
Would you actually expect anything else coming from inside the ath dept? Nobody in the ath dept is going to come out and say "yeah, his ass is out" with games left.
Yes- this was not a random asshole conversation
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Well, sounds like it has- and they're not
I'm pretty sure you are not stupid. You know the decision has not been made.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Unless we get beat 45-0 on Thanksgiving- Mullen back for 2014.
My question is.....What happened to "letting the season play out"? Or does that only apply to those of us that don't agree with your stance?
I mean, after all, if this is "speculation", how is it any different than someone that is ready for Mullen to go starting a thread? Couldn't they just as easily say they talked to someone that said Mullen was getting fired? Would it get locked if they did?
Not trying to cause a problem, I just hate double standards
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Yes- this was not a random asshole conversation
It was a random enough person that it was apparently relayed to you. And I stress the word apparently.
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Banned
If HUD is not in play I don't think there's another choice but to keep Mullen this year. If we were to fire a coach that's had some success and then has one bad year it will make it hard to get someone in my opinion. People outside the program don't know what goes on inside the football program so perception is reality.
I know it's not what many here wanted to see happen but we could do much worse at this point. If Mullen doesn't improve as a coach next year then there's more for outsiders to see and that perception will be different.
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We will beat Arky and upset OM at home so this discussion will be moot come Black Friday. That said, I'm sure the admin is totally fine with Dan. I'd rather know if the big money shares the same opinion. That's the only opinion that matters. Screw whatever your AD friends say.
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Hahaha... No see that was to shut you up... Not them. Hahah, great point.
No laughing matter if true though but pretty typical. We wonder why we always suck. We expect it. Hellwe demand it !!!
Who is greg Byrne(galt)?
Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
My question is.....What happened to "letting the season play out"? Or does that only apply to those of us that don't agree with your stance?
I mean, after all, if this is "speculation", how is it any different than someone that is ready for Mullen to go starting a thread? Couldn't they just as easily say they talked to someone that said Mullen was getting fired? Would it get locked if they did?
Not trying to cause a problem, I just hate double standards
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
Hahaha... No see that was to shut you up... Not them. Hahah, great point.
No laughing matter if true though but pretty typical. We wonder why we always suck. We expect it. Hellwe demand it !!!
Who is greg Byrne(galt)?
+1
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If all this is true my new theory is that Strickland is just a puppet regime being run primarily out of the sec office by LT.
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The bottom line is it all comes down to the Egg Bowl. Which is pretty much what I have been saying.
I would not expect the administration to say or be anything other than supportive of Dan at this point. We still have a chance to go to a bowl. Even if they know that they are going to fire him, you don't say it or leak it because if you do then you end up with a situation where there is a lot of controversy amongst the alumni and even worse you have a coach that will go into "don't give a shit" mode.
Really and truly, losing to Arkansas this year SHOULD be enough to get fired regardless of the outcome of the Egg Bowl, but the reality is I don't think that game matters too much.
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bottom line is the money alums will make the call, not the admin and I assure you if we lose out or if we beat arky then lose to OM by 17 or more Dan will be fired. And as for the Hud debate everyone likes to say he is going somewhere else. My question is where? A school like florida or aTm is not going to go after him as a top choice, as I have said dozens of times he is just simply making sure we know he's not gonna be walked all over just because he want's the job. It's sounds clich?' but he is "playing hard to get". That's his best move. It will equal more money and more decision making ability overall. Either Hud is the coach at State next year or he will remain at Louisiana Laf. Mark it down.
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Originally Posted by
cheewgumm
If all this is true my new theory is that Strickland is just a puppet regime being run primarily out of the sec office by LT.
All AD's are puppets. It's a matter of who is pulling the strings.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
bottom line is the money alums will make the call, not the admin and I assure you if we lose out or if we beat arky then lose to OM by 17 or more Dan will be fired. And as for the Hud debate everyone likes to say he is going somewhere else. My question is where? A school like florida or aTm is not going to go after him as a top choice, as I have said dozens of times he is just simply making sure we know he's not gonna be walked all over just because he want's the job. It's sounds clich?' but he is "playing hard to get". That's his best move. It will equal more money and more decision making ability overall. Either Hud is the coach at State next year or he will remain at Louisiana Laf. Mark it down.
I tend to agree with this. If you pull yourself away from maroon and white for a second and look at Hud from a Florida or SC or A&M standpoint....he is rising, but he hasn't completely risen yet (I'm sure the Hud Jesus crowd will love that reference). Schools like those get someone that has risen....teams like MSU catch coaches as they are rising before other big schools draw interest. That's why I'm not buying the "Hud is going elsewhere I'm hearing (wink, wink)" BS. Truth is, he is MSU ready, but not Florida ready. It is what it is. Most of us just seem to think he will be a homerun hire that will eventually be a candidate at a really big school if we don't act quickly.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
I tend to agree with this. If you pull yourself away from maroon and white for a second and look at Hud from a Florida or SC or A&M standpoint....he is rising, but he hasn't completely risen yet (I'm sure the Hud Jesus crowd will love that reference). Schools like those get someone that has risen....teams like MSU catch coaches as they are rising before other big schools draw interest. That's why I'm not buying the "Hud is going elsewhere I'm hearing (wink, wink)" BS. Truth is, he is MSU ready, but not Florida ready. It is what it is. Most of us just seem to think he will be a homerun hire that will eventually be a candidate at a really big school if we don't act quickly.
exactly
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The thing is if we go 5-7 this year which is still debatable, and then go 6-6 next year which would put us 2-6 in the SEC will all the Mullen supports still be here? Vandy is no sure win anymore, Auburn is improving, UK is recruiting better than we are, and we get go to Oxford. I dont see Dan making any changes this off season to the staff or the way he recruits because no one in the Bryan building has the balls to hold Dan's feet to the fire. Mediocrity only acceptable at MSU
Last edited by Dawgfan77; 11-15-2013 at 06:58 AM.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
bottom line is the money alums will make the call, not the admin and I assure you if we lose out or if we beat arky then lose to OM by 17 or more Dan will be fired. And as for the Hud debate everyone likes to say he is going somewhere else. My question is where? A school like florida or aTm is not going to go after him as a top choice, as I have said dozens of times he is just simply making sure we know he's not gonna be walked all over just because he want's the job. It's sounds clich?' but he is "playing hard to get". That's his best move. It will equal more money and more decision making ability overall. Either Hud is the coach at State next year or he will remain at Louisiana Laf. Mark it down.
Did I read on here that ultimatums come with hiring Hud? Things like, if he comes to MSU so and so in the admin has got to go.
If that's the case it seems that would lower the chances of him ever actually coming to terms with us.
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If we lose out, we would be 4-13 in our last 17. If we make no changes at all, not firing Dan necessarily, but some assistant or coordinator changes, then I'm canceling my TV season tickets...DONE!!
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That's the point Cadaver- this is not a speculation thread- this is "stance the admin is taking" thread
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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All of this is BS. Like I said before, no way will the aathletic dept be leaking anything right now. The customary "all is good, Dan is the man" is all you are going to get right now.
With that said, I fully expect Mullen back next year. We don't have a wise athletic dept.
Last edited by MrKotter; 11-15-2013 at 07:49 AM.
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