2nd hand from the Admin

[Madkinmecrazy]

Not surprising. Firing Mullen after a down year wouldn't exactly make Starkville an appealing place for a coach to come.

[Coach34]

I would not expect ANY other message at this stage. An administration is ALWAYS going to back the current coach until they don't. Mullen has every chance to end well enough to not only have the administration's support going into next year but also a large percentage of the fanbase. An administration would give NO other message other than what C34 is hearing unless everything was a lost cause which obviously this isn't.

This was not a "partyline" conversation...this was a "we're not ****ing firing him" conversation

[maroonmania]

This was not a "partyline" conversation...this was a "we're not ****ing firing him" conversation

We may not fire him regardless but if we go 4-8 this year after the way we finished last year and don't make a change its going to be a rough year to open up a new, enlarged stadium. To be honest if we aren't going to bring in Hud I'd rather not make a change right now anyway. Most anybody else we could bring in would just be an experiment both in how they would perform as a HC and in how they could recruit MS.

[Original48]

Well, the admin needs to go out and hire Mullen an equivalent offensive counterpart to run the offense. the way I see it, I don't see any of the offensive coaches contributing/challenging Mullen in planning/meetings, etc. If they were, then Perkins wouldn't be carrying the ball as often.

Boy isn't this the truth. Tyler with a lone back Perkins equals waste of everyone's time. How Dan refuses to see this is beyond me.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Unless we get beat 45-0 on Thanksgiving- Mullen back for 2014.

That's not what I heard from my 2nd hand source. Mine told me we have to beat Ole Miss 45-0

[HoopsDawg]

We may not fire him regardless but if we go 4-8 this year after the way we finished last year and don't make a change its going to be a rough year to open up a new, enlarged stadium. To be honest if we aren't going to bring in Hud I'd rather not make a change right now anyway. Most anybody else we could bring in would just be an experiment both in how they would perform as a HC and in how they could recruit MS.

Right. New stadium, new uniforms, new coach if that Coach is Hud, and a new start. Hud would have a nice foundation, great schedule, and a heck of a QB for his offense in Dak. And we would only be in danger of losing 1 or 2 recruits at the most. I really doubt we would lose any.

If we bring Mullen back, he will do fine next year. And then the mindless sheep will say "thank goodness we didn't fire mullen". But we will have missed our chance on Hud and our trajectory will be flat to down.

My disclaimer is that all of this is based on us finishing 0-3 which I would say is about a 50/50 proposition.

[Coach34]

Hud is not an option at this point. All signs are pointing to him headed somewhere already- thats what led to the "we're not ****ing firing him" response...lol

[HoopsDawg]

Hud is not an option at this point. All signs are pointing to him headed somewhere already- thats what led to the "we're not ****ing firing him" response...lol

Where?

[Coach34]

Where?

Nobody seems to have the answer yet- just speculation

[HoopsDawg]

Nobody seems to have the answer yet- just speculation

We can get him. There is not a better job out there for Hud.

[whosyourdawgy]

Dude. Good Lord. You want this too bad. Get off the computer, go out and get a taco or something and some fresh air. Dan Mullen is gonna be our coach next year no matter how many times you freaking type it on this message board. It's obvious you despise his ass but you ain't helping shit with concern to our football program with all this BS. At some point you need to realize this.

[HunterDawg]

If the rumors about Sumlin leaving are true, there could be dominos falling all over the place. Who knows what will open up. Hud may just keep his powder dry and wait and see what develops. We can't wait like that. If we don't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, we will probably not make a move this year. Thanksgiving is two weeks from today.

[HoopsDawg]

If the rumors about Sumlin leaving are true, there could be dominos falling all over the place. Who knows what will open up. Hud may just keep his powder dry and wait and see what develops. We can't wait like that. If we don't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, we will probably not make a move this year. Thanksgiving is two weeks from today.

I don't see Sumlin leaving A&M. They can pay him whatever he wants. Hud would take the MSU job if offered. Hud needs to remain in the south. There will be no SEC jobs to take nor any other jobs that offer what MSU can offer Hud. I think we've got a real chance to upgrade here, I hope our administration has the foresight and the fortitude to make the move if necessary. I still hope Mullen can get it together and pull off the Egg Bowl upset, but I really don't see it happening.

[Madkinmecrazy]

If the rumors about Sumlin leaving are true, there could be dominos falling all over the place. Who knows what will open up. Hud may just keep his powder dry and wait and see what develops. We can't wait like that. If we don't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, we will probably not make a move this year. Thanksgiving is two weeks from today.

Just so you'll know, we won't have him locked up by Thanksgiving, and we won't make a move this year.

This Hud obsession will come and go, and we'lll play another football season with Mullen next year. That will be the year where Mullen's fate is decided.

[engie]

Speculation on top of speculation...

I'm not getting into this debate anymore -- but there hasn't been a damn thing "already decided" midseason...

[bluelightstar]

And if it has, the whole Bryan Building needs to be fired.

[HunterDawg]

I don't see Sumlin leaving A&M. They can pay him whatever he wants. Hud would take the MSU job if offered. Hud needs to remain in the south. There will be no SEC jobs to take nor any other jobs that offer what MSU can offer Hud. I think we've got a real chance to upgrade here, I hope our administration has the foresight and the fortitude to make the move if necessary. I still hope Mullen can get it together and pull off the Egg Bowl upset, but I really don't see it happening.

There are rumors that So Cal is going after Sumlin. If JFF is leaving, I can see Sumlin taking that job. Whoever A&M hires will have to be replaced and lots of coaches will be moving around before long. What happens with Muschamp? Spurrier retiring? Could be a busy winter.

[MrKotter]

Unless we get beat 45-0 on Thanksgiving- Mullen back for 2014.

Would you actually expect anything else coming from inside the ath dept? Nobody in the ath dept is going to come out and say "yeah, his ass is out" with games left.

[BossDawg]

And if it has, the whole Bryan Building needs to be fired.

Probably not a bad idea regardless.

[Coach34]

And if it has, the whole Bryan Building needs to be fired.

Well, sounds like it has- and they're not