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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Dan wanting very little to do with many of our big boosters didn't help.

    We can get coordinated for basketball but not football?
    This all day long. Things are about to change in a big way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Adams, Kobe, Spencer, rivers, autry, Odom, crumedy, and Robinson should all be there... hopefully elliss too
    Most of that group are DEs. Interior linemen are what we need which is the reason Lovett is really a much bigger loss than Williams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Most of that group are DEs. Interior linemen are what we need which is the reason Lovett is really a much bigger loss than Williams.
    3-4 de maybe, but I think Adams, Kobe, rivers, autry, Odom, and Robinson can play dt in 4-3.

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    The thing that bothers me in this is that all of a sudden many on this board turned on both Williams and Lovitt with: "we didn't need them anyway, they won't qualify, drama queens, not really State types, we'll get someone else better ( a little late maybe), etc. Maybe new staff has a better plan b4 Feb. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    The thing that bothers me in this is that all of a sudden many on this board turned on both Williams and Lovitt with: "we didn't need them anyway, they won't qualify, drama queens, not really State types, we'll get someone else better ( a little late maybe), etc. Maybe new staff has a better plan b4 Feb. Hail State!
    Would you rather a full blown melt, fire Moorhead type reaction? I mean either way, we are not getting them. Frick both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    Because it has to be coordinated from the top down. Stans showed us how in basketball, apparently we've never had anyone be able to do the same in football.
    I think Jackie did. Maybe Rockey. Croom didn't at least at first because we were on probation and actually did get hammered. Dan... Not so much.

    I think it's imperative in the SEC to have a relationship with a booster where the coach has a "knows but doesn't know" situation. I think that's what is different about Ole Miss- the coaches know. However like about Saban knows what goes on or knows that it is going on but he doesn't know all the specifics. He just knows that he wants player X and he asks that it happens by whatever means necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Would you rather a full blown melt, fire Moorhead type reaction? I mean either way, we are not getting them. Frick both of them.
    No major meltdown but consider this a shot across the bow by UNM. Have great faith in Coach Joe and new staff from what I have read to date. Recruiting automatically has much better potential with the country club gone. As many posted, with the cop out by the spineless NCAA, a version of the "Wild, Wild West" may be here to stay whether most like it or not. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Percho View Post
    Think about it. What a great time for a flip but right after the team you have been committed to, wins it's bowl game.

    Yeah, I don't want to play for that bunch, I want to go help out a team sitting on their butts at home after going 6 and 6 and on probation.

    That makes a lot of sense.
    You don?t understand do you? This kid was gonna flip for awhile. They waited for the right time, so yeah it makes perfect sense. Geez

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Would you rather a full blown melt, fire Moorhead type reaction? I mean either way, we are not getting them. Frick both of them.
    No, but some on this board should be able to understand that, as an MSU fan, you can get pissed about losing a good recruit that was committed without it being a "freak out" or a "meltdown".

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    No, but some on this board should be able to understand that, as an MSU fan, you can get pissed about losing a good recruit that was committed without it being a "freak out" or a "meltdown".
    My point also, tee'd off/disappointed. Unless our new staff has a different plan ( I have no inside info and appreciate the info I get here from those who do), these guys who were long committed and back out (unless a plant by a UNM type) have to be replaced by someone hopefully as good or even better. I wonder about the other five still committed, but didn't sign. One post considered them now a non-commit in referring to Lovett. February will tell the tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    My point also, tee'd off/disappointed. Unless our new staff has a different plan ( I have no inside info and appreciate the info I get here from those who do), these guys who were long committed and back out (unless a plant by a UNM type) have to be replaced by someone hopefully as good or even better. I wonder about the other five still committed, but didn't sign. One post considered them now a non-commit in referring to Lovett. February will tell the tell.
    McDowell- probably get him.
    Mason- probably get him.
    Watson- probably get him.
    Furdge- if we want him.
    Patterson- JUCO.

    So, I wouldn't be surprised if we got them all. Eventually we get Patterson after JUCO. Three are out of state players trying to get mostly local offers from SEC schools. Furdge is a numbers guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    McDowell- probably get him.
    Mason- probably get him.
    Watson- probably get him.
    Furdge- if we want him.
    Patterson- JUCO.

    So, I wouldn't be surprised if we got them all. Eventually we get Patterson after JUCO. Three are out of state players trying to get mostly local offers from SEC schools. Furdge is a numbers guy.
    So things looking better on mason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    McDowell- probably get him.
    Mason- probably get him.
    Watson- probably get him.
    Furdge- if we want him.
    Patterson- JUCO.

    So, I wouldn't be surprised if we got them all. Eventually we get Patterson after JUCO. Three are out of state players trying to get mostly local offers from SEC schools. Furdge is a numbers guy.
    Thanks much. Hope it goes that way with a surprise OL man or DB. Hail State!

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So things looking better on mason?
    I thought so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    Thanks much. Hope it goes that way with a surprise OL man or DB. Hail State!
    And remember even if we signed all four of those we have some spots still open which I am sure we will probably use on OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So things looking better on mason?
    So long as Bama doesn't offer, yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I thought so?
    It was a question. Last I heard, he was ark. I do not keep up as well as I used to though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So long as Bama doesn't offer, yes
    Good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    It was a question. Last I heard, he was ark. I do not keep up as well as I used to though
    From my understanding, Ark is not a huge factor. Bama is a factor & Tennessee could become a factor.

    A Bama offer is not expected though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    From my understanding, Ark is not a huge factor. Bama is a factor & Tennessee could become a factor.

    A Bama offer is not expected though
    Pruitt is becoming a headache

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