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Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
https://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...se-chad-morris
Yeah keep grantham and sign me up jack, 14-22 record at SMU is a bit concerning but they were awful before he took the job there. 2-10 his first year to 7-5 now. We would be hellacious on offense and Grantham staying for our D this is prolly the best move I've seen being considered.
Really Morris or Moorhead.
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No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.
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We need to come out on the positive side of this and this would help a lot.
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Originally Posted by
Anonymous
Honestly don't want Morris.
Now Moorhead + Grantham, now that is something to get behind.
I approve
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Originally Posted by
Coach
No to Chad Morris. Come on.... If we can't do better than that, then we are simply stupid.
Solid analysis****
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I know it is a moot point, but Kiffin?s turnaround is much, much more impressive
I approve of this message.
Don't get me wrong. Morris sounds like a homerun OC hire for Pruitt, Kiffin or Leach.
The thought of Moorhead just makes me very uninspired and sad.
Last edited by Dawgs87; 11-28-2017 at 08:05 PM.
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Morris is middle of the pack recruiting in the AAC. Houston, Cincinnati, ucf, and USF are all ahead in recruiting rankings, which is understandable. Temple with Collins is ahead of them too though, which leads me to believe Morris is not the elite recruiter being portrayed here. Collins is a good recruiter, but smu has much more talent surrounding it.
ETA... Morris has finished 7th out of 12 in his first 2 years. He is 6th this year
Last edited by msstate7; 11-28-2017 at 08:19 PM.
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Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them
Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5
I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.
Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.
This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.
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Give me Morris over Moorhead everyday. Morris has turned SMU around. Just needs a DC.
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them
Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5
I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.
Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.
This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.
While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.
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Board consensus wanting defensive guy Grantham to remain. So that would leave Morris and Moorhead in play...the other defensive guy would be out....sounds like a brilliant ploy or play
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.
So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer, unless he comes with Cam for at least one season.
Speaking of which, wth were Jay Jacobs and Pat Dye thinking? Chizik pre Auburn HC experience:
2007 Iowa State 3–9 2–6 T–5th (North)
2008 Iowa State 2–10 0–8 6th (North)
Iowa State: 5–19 2–14
Last edited by Dawgs87; 11-28-2017 at 08:16 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgs87
So we can hire a guy with no head coaching experience or a guy with 14-22 worth of head coaching experience. No thanks on the Gene Chizik offer.
He took over a dumpster fire. Worse than Mullen took over. Terrible. Beyond that. So a crap shoot or a guy who has proven he can turn a place around?? Gene chizik was 3-8 at Iowa st and won at auburn so I guess you made my point. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
U just told me grantham office was cleaned out.
Moving into a bigger space???
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Originally Posted by
sleepy dawg
Let's chill on the SMU is the worst program ever talk and Chad saved them
Before Chad:
2009 8-5: Conference Champs
2010 7-7: Conference Champs
2011 8-5
2012 7-6
2013 5-7
2014 1-9 (Head coach resigned after 2 games)
In comes Chad:
2015 2-10
2016 5-7
2016 7-5
I'll give you he's had them heading back in the right direction, but to try to act like he's superman is ridiculous. A good coach should be able to dominate in the AAC even with less than stellar talent. 2 of their 4 losing seasons in the past 9 years came under Chad's watch.
Mullen turned us around quicker with a way shittier recent history. Did we have better talent, yes, but we also played in a waaay tougher conference to win in.
This may infact turn out to be a good hire, but to call it a "homerun" hire is absurd... Maybe more like a double, triple at best.
2013 and prior they were CUSA, a much weaker conference.
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If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.
I agree
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.
I'm with you on this....
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
While I don't know who the best hire is, please define slam dunk at msu? Cause we can hire a guy like him or a coordinating that's never been a head coach. There is no ben howlamd out there pal.
I can't answer that question, buddy. I don't have the answers either. I'm also not saying I wouldn't fully support him if that's who we get, b/c I will and I just will hope I have no idea what I'm talking about and the rest of you are geniuses.
I thought HR the moment I heard we hired these guys:
Dan Mullen
Ben Howland
John Cohen
Andy Cannizaro
I did not think HR when we hired:
Rick Ray
I am by no means saying I think Chad is the next Ray, but for where our program is right now, this isn't a HR for us. It's just pretty good.
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Originally Posted by
preachermatt83
If u can keep grantham and hire a very good offensive coach (Morris or Moorhead) you jump on it in a split second.
Exactly!!!
Get them on board quick and go lock down the receivers and get another corner.
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