Slive rule

[preachermatt83]

We will find out for sure this season if this unwritten rule is still in effect. My guess is that it is. There will be more sec hc jobs open this season than ever before. If no current SEC hc jumps to another sec program will we all be in agreement that the Slive rule is real?

[Political Hack]

The rule is real. It's a question of whether a new administration will continue to enforce it.

[TStationDawg]

well....if it is real.....and not "enforced" by the new admin, doesn't that, in fact, mean it's not real?

[chainedup_Dawg]

I'm not real sure what to think of the whole "unwritten rule" thing. I mean, if it were really a thing and schools/coaches/ADs, etc. were told that SEC programs would not be poaching other SEC coaches, it seems to me someone would've made reference to it by now like a coach, agent, AD, someone. Maybe I'm over thinking, I don't know.

With that being said, Mullen isn't going to FL and if he hated the way he was treated in FL he damn sure wouldn't go to TN either. I grew up and lived most of my life in TN, those people are insane.

[Political Hack]

well....if it is real.....and not "enforced" by the new admin, doesn't that, in fact, mean it's not real?

Nope. It's not a bylaw. Otherwise it would be in writing and well known to all the idiot media members that continue to spew "SEC coach A" is moving to "SEC school b" next year. After two decades of being wrong, you think they'd pick up on it.

[MrKotter]

Nope. It's not a bylaw. Otherwise it would be in writing and well known to all the idiot media members that continue to spew "SEC coach A" is moving to "SEC school b" next year. After two decades of being wrong, you think they'd pick up on it.

You would think some on this board would pick up on it by now too

[Drugdog]

Nope. It's not a bylaw. Otherwise it would be in writing and well known to all the idiot media members that continue to spew "SEC coach A" is moving to "SEC school b" next year. After two decades of being wrong, you think they'd pick up on it.

I don't believe you need much talent to be a media person. Have an agenda and a microphone.

[RiverCityDawg]

We will find out for sure this season if this unwritten rule is still in effect. My guess is that it is. There will be more sec hc jobs open this season than ever before. If no current SEC hc jumps to another sec program will we all be in agreement that the Slive rule is real?

No. If we assume Mullen stays put, what other SEC coach would we see moving in order to prove the rule is real? No one would want any of the others except Saban and Smart and they aren't going anywhere.

[ShotgunDawg]

While I agree with the rule in general, the pushback on the rule will be using examples like James Franklin to show that the SEC can’t afford to lose quality coaches because they weren’t allowed to take another SEC job.

[RocketDawg]

Not sure it's a "rule" per se, but more of a gentleman's agreement to be courteous to one another. The level of animosity between schools doesn't even approach that of the fans ... the schools on a professional level get along and respect one another (I think).

[Political Hack]

While I agree with the rule in general, the pushback on the rule will be using examples like James Franklin to show that the SEC can’t afford to lose quality coaches because they weren’t allowed to take another SEC job.

Rising tide raises all ships. Or whatever that saying is...

The SEC doesn't export good coaches. They import them. Outside of Franklin and Meyer (who was fired from UF), the SEC hasn't really lost any quality coaches to other conferences unless they were pushed out (e.g., Richt & Cut).

[TUSK]

I don't know the definition of "real" in this context, but I do know this:

1. It likely depends on what program is doing the hiring from which other program.
2. It's unenforceable.

That being said, I don't think YDL is going any damn where.

[parabrave]

Rising tide raises all ships. Or whatever that saying is...

The SEC doesn't export good coaches. They import them. Outside of Franklin and Meyer (who was fired from UF), the SEC hasn't really lost any quality coaches to other conferences unless they were pushed out (e.g., Richt & Cut).

Kinda reminds me of the Bill Belichick rule. Just because you are a winner and a great head coach doesn't mean your coordinator are HC material.

[Tbonewannabe]

Rising tide raises all ships. Or whatever that saying is...

The SEC doesn't export good coaches. They import them. Outside of Franklin and Meyer (who was fired from UF), the SEC hasn't really lost any quality coaches to other conferences unless they were pushed out (e.g., Richt & Cut).

This is enough to say Dan isn't going to UF and probably not UT. He realizes those crazy bastards don't give you time to put in the foundation of your program. By the time you have 1 recruiting class in, you better be playing in the SEC Championship game or in McE's case, winning a Natty.

[Commercecomet24]

I understand why slive put the rule in place. If schools start poaching other schools hc then you could open up Pandora?s box. There?s already an arms race in the sec and this would escalate it to nuclear levels. Can you just imagine how toxic it could become? Remember the ole southwest conference ate its self up. That being said there is no way to enforce this.

[Johnson85]

No. If we assume Mullen stays put, what other SEC coach would we see moving in order to prove the rule is real? No one would want any of the others except Saban and Smart and they aren't going anywhere.

^^^THIS^^^

Mullen is the only potential coach that would be wanted that is not at a clear final destination job. UF should be able to poach him but can't because of personal reasons. UT is a program in disarray with Bama level expectations but that has to recruit nationally after being bad for over a decade.

If A&M fires Sumlin, they would have the resources and natural recruiting ground that it would make sense that they could poach Mullen, but I'm not sure they fire Sumlin to go pay more money to Mullen when Mullen's overall record against Sumlin isn't dominant.

Arkansas is not a program that can poach from another SEC program and I don't even think Auburn is if they fire Malzahn.

While the rule won't be proven to be in existence, it could be proven to be false if Malzahn goes 8-4 and he jumps ship to Arkansas rather than start 2018 with a red hot seat when he knows he will have difficult games against Bama, UGA, and MSU in 2018

[Tbonewannabe]

^^^THIS^^^

Mullen is the only potential coach that would be wanted that is not at a clear final destination job. UF should be able to poach him but can't because of personal reasons. UT is a program in disarray with Bama level expectations but that has to recruit nationally after being bad for over a decade.

If A&M fires Sumlin, they would have the resources and natural recruiting ground that it would make sense that they could poach Mullen, but I'm not sure they fire Sumlin to go pay more money to Mullen when Mullen's overall record against Sumlin isn't dominant.

Arkansas is not a program that can poach from another SEC program and I don't even think Auburn is if they fire Malzahn.

While the rule won't be proven to be in existence, it could be proven to be false if Malzahn goes 8-4 and he jumps ship to Arkansas rather than start 2018 with a red hot seat when he knows he will have difficult games against Bama, UGA, and MSU in 2018

If Malzahn goes to Arkansas, it isn't because Arkansas stole him from Auburn. It would probably be similar to when Nutt went to UM.

[ShotgunDawg]

If Malzahn goes to Arkansas, it isn't because Arkansas stole him from Auburn. It would probably be similar to when Nutt went to UM.

I have wondered is Malzahn would leave Auburn for Arkansas just to reset the clock.

At Auburn, he’s year to year. At Arkansas, he’d have at least another 5 years.

[Tbonewannabe]

I have wondered is Malzahn would leave Auburn for Arkansas just to reset the clock.

At Auburn, he’s year to year. At Arkansas, he’d have at least another 5 years.

If people think UT could steal Mullen then this is backwards logic. Auburn is the bigger program with more money so it would be interesting if he left there for Arkansas with AU actually wanting to keep him. It isn't like Bert has done a horrible job. His first year is his only losing season prior to this one and he still has a chance at a bowl game although LSU and MSU will probably skull 17 them.

[RocketDawg]

Rising tide raises all ships. Or whatever that saying is...

The SEC doesn't export good coaches. They import them. Outside of Franklin and Meyer (who was fired from UF), the SEC hasn't really lost any quality coaches to other conferences unless they were pushed out (e.g., Richt & Cut).

Darryl Royal?

Did you jsut say that Meyer was fired from Florida? I think he just quit because he couldn't stand the pressure of SEC expectations. And it wasn't his health.