Fitz is a better college Qb than Dak

[Sacrifice]

How about on the road, 5:45 left in the 3rd quarter, 4th and 3 against OM, leading 27-20 in last years egg bowl. Fitz hits Ross on a crossing route for a 35 yard TD!

[bulldawg28]

3rd and 10, game on the line, you get Dak his Jr year or Fitz this year, which do you pick?

I pick Dak

Fitz. He has a better chance of throwing and running for it. With that distance either the LB's are blitzing or dropping back. If they blitz he can hit the outside WR. If they drop he can run and get separation enough to gain the 1st down

[BeardoMSU]

In response to this thread, Ruby Rhod say....

[BeardoMSU]

Fitz. He has a better chance of throwing and running for it. With that distance either the LB's are blitzing or dropping back. If they blitz he can hit the outside WR. If they drop he can run and get separation enough to gain the 1st down

I love Fitz, but you crazy, homie. It's like you guys are too spoiled with our QB play the past several years. Don't start losing your minds...

[msstate7]

About the 3rd down question... we are converting 3rd downs at a higher rate than in 14 and 15

I never wanna see this thread end

[bulldawg28]

I love Fitz, but you crazy, homie. It's like you guys are too spoiled with our QB play the past several years. Don't start losing your minds...

Dak became a legend on the Ole Miss 4th down conversion. Fitz makes that same play. I just want one game that Dak won that Fitz wouldn't have done the same.

[bulldawg28]

About the 3rd down question... we are converting 3rd downs at a higher rate than in 14 and 15

I never wanna see this thread end

Fitz is a badddddd man!

[Spiderman]

Dak became a legend on the Ole Miss 4th down conversion. Fitz makes that same play. I just want one game that Dak won that Fitz wouldn't have done the same.

Ark. 15 off the top of my head

[bulldawg28]

Ark. 15 off the top of my head

You honesty don't think Fitz could have pulled that game off?

[Schultzy]

No

To the OP

[Spiderman]

You honesty don't think Fitz could have pulled that game off?

No, not throwing the ball that night in a shoot out

[bulldawg28]

No, not throwing the ball that night in a shoot out

We didn't have to throw that's what we chose to do.

[bulldawg28]

No

To the OP

Dak wouldn't have beat A&M last year in Starkville. Heck, we lose last night with Dak. The sacks would have mounted up. Fitz avoids the rush

[Quaoarsking]

You honesty don't think Fitz could have pulled that game off?

No, current Fitz loses that game by double digits. But it's not exactly a fair comparison since that was late in Dak's senior year and Fitz could still develop into a guy that could win that game.

[Intramural All-American]

Fitz. He has a better chance of throwing and running for it. With that distance either the LB's are blitzing or dropping back. If they blitz he can hit the outside WR. If they drop he can run and get separation enough to gain the 1st down

Dak's career passer rating is 146, and that's drastically brought down by his sophomore year. Fitz has been in the 120s the past two years. Dak was the frontrunner for the Heisman through 9 games his junior season and he finished #7 I believe as the best player in college football that year. Then his senior year he threw 29 tds to only 5 picks. Daks senior season his completion percentage was 10 points higher than nicks current percentage.

Fitz is an elite runner, but he is nowhere near the complete package that Dak was. Fitz hasn't had to throw the ball this year, but when he has, he's failed to do so and we've gotten blown out. He also got benched at LSU last year because he couldn't pass.

In regards to one of your questions, dak would have beaten BYU last year, USA last year, and maybe Kentucky (that wasn't on Fitz, tho). Nick would not have beaten LSU in BR in 14.

Dak was a very good passer that had above average legs. He could beat you with both. Fitz is an elite runner but below average passer. If you shut down the run, Fitz can't beat you through the air. Fortunately, we've only needed Nick to really throw it in 2 games this year, and will only need him to 1 other game (He wont).

[BeardoMSU]

You honesty don't think Fitz could have pulled that game off?

Dak threw for almost 500 yards....

[BeardoMSU]

No, current Fitz loses that game by double digits. But it's not exactly a fair comparison since that was late in Dak's senior year and Fitz could still develop into a guy that could win that game.

This is very true, but ain't close to being there yet....

I hope he gets there, though. I'd love it.

[msstate7]

Dak's career passer rating is 146, and that's drastically brought down by his sophomore year. Fitz has been in the 120s the past two years. Dak was the frontrunner for the Heisman through 9 games his junior season and he finished #7 I believe as the best player in college football that year. Then his senior year he threw 29 tds to only 5 picks. Daks senior season his completion percentage was 10 points higher than nicks current percentage.

Fitz is an elite runner, but he is nowhere near the complete package that Dak was. Fitz hasn't had to throw the ball this year, but when he has, he's failed to do so and we've gotten blown out. He also got benched at LSU last year because he couldn't pass.

In regards to one of your questions, dak would have beaten BYU last year, USA last year, and maybe Kentucky (that wasn't on Fitz, tho). Nick would not have beaten LSU in BR in 14.

Dak was a very good passer that had above average legs. He could beat you with both. Fitz is an elite runner but below average passer. If you shut down the run, Fitz can't beat you through the air. Fortunately, we've only needed Nick to really throw it in 2 games this year, and will only need him to 1 other game (He wont).

Again, an impartial metric (espn qbr) disagrees with you that dak was a more complete package. Do I agree with it? No, not entirely, but its unbiased and it clearly favors fitz.

You guys keep bringing up passing, but the OP said better college qb. Tommie Frazier is lightyears ahead of both of them as a college qb and was not a passer at all. Running is a huge part of being a good college qb.

[Commercecomet24]

I?m 53 and I?ve watched a lot of bad to mediocre qbs play at State. I used to wish we could have just that one elite qb like everyone else seemed to have. I think it?s cool that we have reached the point where we are discussing which one is the best ever. Both of these guys are better than anyone in our history and we got more in the pipeline. QBU! Dang don?t it feel good!

[Intramural All-American]

Again, an impartial metric (espn qbr) disagrees with you that dak was a more complete package. Do I agree with it? No, not entirely, but its unbiased and it clearly favors fitz.

You guys keep bringing up passing, but the OP said better college qb. Tommie Frazier is lightyears ahead of both of them as a college qb and was not a passer at all. Running is a huge part of being a good college qb.

No, QBR shows that Nick is an elite runner (top 2 in the country), but a poor passer. His running ability makes up the vast majority of that. I would not call someone a complete package who is viewed as a liability as a passer.

Fitz has 1986 total yards this year. He's on pace for 3200 total yards this year. Dak put up 4500 total yards his jr year and 4300 his Sr year.