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    Fitz has to get a lot better as a passer to get there. There is no doubt he’s a tough ****er and great runner. But as far as a thrower and decision maker he’s not close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PassInterference View Post
    The issue in those years was defense and depth.
    True, but we could run the ball outside the QB position in 2014. By far the primary reason we had the success we did in 2015 was Dak maturing into a near elite passer by that time and putting on some incredible performances given what he had to work with. Substitute present Fitz into that position and keep everything else the same, and that season would most likely have looked very different. Probably not far removed from 2016.

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    Ahhhhh. How far have we come? From arguing over a West Coast shit offense to now arguing whether or not our current QB is better than our last ?NFL rookie of the year? QB!!!

    I?m just happy that we have actual sports to speak of on a sports board. Not ascots and seersucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    That is all
    OMG
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    There is a metric... ESPN?s QBR

    Dak in 2014 = 74.5 (19th nationally)
    Dak in 2015 = 78.8 (14th nationally)

    Fitz in 2016 = 77.4 (19th nationally)
    Fitz in 2017 = 82.8 (5th nationally)

    http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr

    Fitz is a soph and junior vs dak junior and senior. ESPN QBR supports OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    There is a metric... ESPN?s QBR

    Dak in 2014 = 74.5 (19th nationally)
    Dak in 2015 = 78.8 (14th nationally)

    Fitz in 2016 = 77.4 (19th nationally)
    Fitz in 2017 = 82.8 (5th nationally)

    http://www.espn.com/ncf/qbr

    Fitz is a soph and junior vs dak junior and senior. ESPN QBR supports OP
    All well and good, but if you are picking a team to go play this week, who you picking to play QB?

    I'll take Dak, in his college days
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    All well and good, but if you are picking a team to go play this week, who you picking to play QB?

    I'll take Dak, in his college days
    Your looking at Dak playing for the Cowboys

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Your looking at Dak playing for the Cowboys
    Dude, literally every single person in this thread has disagreed with you. You have your opinion, and that's fine. But you're not going to convince people that Fitz is better than Dak was. Fitz is a superior runner without a doubt. Dak was far and away more polished of a passer, and he did pretty well running himself.

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    If Fitz gets any better throwing the football and I think he will, he?ll be in NY at the heisman trophy ceremony. He?s already on pace to smash Tebow?s rushing record by a qb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intramural All-American View Post
    Dude, literally every single person in this thread has disagreed with you. You have your opinion, and that's fine. But you're not going to convince people that Fitz is better than Dak was. Fitz is a superior runner without a doubt. Dak was far and away more polished of a passer, and he did pretty well running himself.
    Do you think I made this to get agreement? I'm not looking for popularity. Most of the same people said we'd win 6 games max this year. I said 8 was our floor. I even challenged a "Random poster" with a bet. My opinion is Fitz is better. That's no knock on Dak he just can't do things Fitz can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Your looking at Dak playing for the Cowboys
    God Almighty, 99% of the folks on this board need a reading comprehension class. Did I not write "In his college days"? Dak in the Liberty Bowl, at LSU, Vs Aub, vs A&M etc THROWING THE BALL, Fitz has never come close to having games like that, making those throws

    Cowboys be damned, I'd want Dak
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    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    God Almighty, 99% of the folks on this board need a reading comprehension class. Did I not write "In his college days"? Dak in the Liberty Bowl, at LSU, Vs Aub, vs A&M etc THROWING THE BALL, Fitz has never come close to having games like that, making those throws

    Cowboys be damned, I'd want Dak
    Dak never ran for 1,000 yards in a season either. Barring injury, this will be fitz?s 2nd year in a row to do it. I still like dak better at the moment, but ESPN?s non-partial QBR shows OP isn?t presenting a ridiculous argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Dak never ran for 1,000 yards in a season either. Barring injury, this will be fitz?s 2nd year in a row to do it. I still like dak better at the moment, but ESPN?s non-partial QBR shows OP isn?t presenting a ridiculous argument
    Dak didn't have to. Fitz is faster, but Dak made a ton of plays with his legs. Again, we could call different with Dak.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Dak never ran for 1,000 yards in a season either. Barring injury, this will be fitz?s 2nd year in a row to do it. I still like dak better at the moment, but ESPN?s non-partial QBR shows OP isn?t presenting a ridiculous argument
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    Dak didn't have to. Fitz is faster, but Dak made a ton of plays with his legs. Again, we could call different with Dak.
    What could you call with Dak that you couldn't with Fitz? I love Dak but EVERY game we've won with Dak would also been won with Fitz. Also, every game we lost with Fitz we also lose with Dak.

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    This thread obviously is all moot opinions. I just love the attitude, fearlessness, and competitiveness Fitz possesses. He's a baaaaddddd man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Intramural All-American View Post
    Dude, literally every single person in this thread has disagreed with you. You have your opinion, and that's fine. But you're not going to convince people that Fitz is better than Dak was. Fitz is a superior runner without a doubt. Dak was far and away more polished of a passer, and he did pretty well running himself.
    Dak, had way better people to throw to. Fitz yesterday had some tight ends and ole # 20 who can't catch a cold. And Dak couldn't beat A&M and Fitz has beat them twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Dak, had way better people to throw to. Fitz yesterday had some tight ends and ole # 20 who can't catch a cold. And Dak couldn't beat A&M and Fitz has beat them twice
    Dak did beat A&M his Jr year. We waxed them. Score was closer than actual game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    What could you call with Dak that you couldn't with Fitz? I love Dak but EVERY game we've won with Dak would also been won with Fitz. Also, every game we lost with Fitz we also lose with Dak.
    3rd and 10, game on the line, you get Dak his Jr year or Fitz this year, which do you pick?

    I pick Dak
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    3rd and 10, game on the line, you get Dak his Jr year or Fitz this year, which do you pick?

    I pick Dak
    Dak

    3rd and 3 though, I want fitz

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