Mullen and MSU history

[Jack Lambert]

George Carlin and I disagree.

George can't agree or disagree anymore. Just saying.

[Jack Lambert]

The Junction was designed in 05 and looked identical to current form when I was there in 07. It may be "new" -- but it isn't Dan Mullen new -- and giving him credit for it is ridiculous.

Giving Mullen credit for the change in excitement before and during games you dang straight. Ten years prior it was pretty horrible around there. Man you got some pretty serious hate going on. You might want to lie off for a while. Have you posted anything positive in the past month here or at Six Pack? You are developing a bad persona and you could end up with an egg in your face.

[SoJackDog]

I'm not ready to throw anybody out here but certainly am not sold on Hudspeth. I agree with the Ole Miss baseball and basketball analogies.

[HunterDawg]

To some degree, you run the risk of them being better than they were when you scheduled them. Take GT for example...we just happened to get them for a couple of years when they were really good. Same with Oregon. You don't really run that risk with the teams from lower conferences...even if they're on an upswing, they're probably not going to be so good that they become a toss-up.

But I do agree. I would like to see us throw in a game or two a year against ok teams from BCS conferences...Maryland, Indiana, or the teams you mentioned.

Sure there is some risk to it. There is no reward without risk. Playing teams that have absolutely no chance of beating us just doesn't mean much, not even to us anymore.

And, it isn't fooling anyone, recruits included. "Bowl eligibility" is no longer a big accomplishment and certainly shouldn't be all we are trying to accomplish.

Pick some teams that have good names because they were once good, but now suck, and beat them. It will take you a lot further than whomping Jackson St.

[engie]

Giving Mullen credit for the change in excitement before and during games you dang straight. Ten years prior it was pretty horrible around there. Man you got some pretty serious hate going on. You might want to lie off for a while. Have you posted anything positive in the past month here or at Six Pack? You are developing a bad persona and you could end up with an egg in your face.

Egg on my face because sheep want to give Mullen credit for stuff he had little-to-nothing to do with? Sure, he was a tremendous shot in the arm for our program his first 3 years. No one denies that. But the Junction was bad ass in 2007 -- and Mullen had jack shit to do with that. Mullen is slow-killing the program these past two. The excitement died in 2012. The place has legitimately sold out ONCE this year -- LSU. And we're going to pack an extra 6200 seats against little sisters of the poor? Who are you kidding? Maybe we can find a wealthy alum to buy the last 8000 tickets instead of only the last 2000 tickets so we can claim a "continued sell out streak" though. That's a microcosm of my whole damn problem right now. We've got a significant portion of the fanbase that want to fight to continue the ILLUSION of something -- instead of stepping up and demanding that it be reality.

Alcorn - 55085
Troy - 55096
LSU - 57113
BG - 55148
UK - 55102

But that'll become clear when the stadium fills with Red and Blue on Thanksgiving. Actually, it probably won't -- because people that can't see it yet are unlikely to ever see it -- short of a Croomish Egg Bowl beat down at home.

I hope I do get "egg on my face" if it means MSU being successful. I'm tired of seeing laughable "we believe" threads every week when we're a 20 point underdog under a coach whose greatest underdog victory was as a 6.5 point underdog 50 damn games ago -- and having ZERO faith in our coaching staff whatsoever to step up and win us a game.

[smootness]

Sure there is some risk to it. There is no reward without risk. Playing teams that have absolutely no chance of beating us just doesn't mean much, not even to us anymore.

Very true. I was basically just responding to the thought that it would be good to play someone from a BCS conference that we can beat but should still avoid teams like Oklahoma State. There's always a risk you could lose the better competition you schedule, but my point was that you can't guarantee, several years out, what kind of competition you'll actually be facing.

We could schedule someone like Maryland now; then, within 2-3 years, they could be a top-20 team, and suddenly everyone's complaining that we've scheduled a team that is too good, even those that were calling for us to schedule better teams.

That was my only point.

[4Dawgs4Life]

So please tell us if Mullen can't get it done who do you think MSU can hire to get it done? Oh I know let's hire Saban. Maybe Miles? Oh I forgot Hudspeth, you know the guy who list two a bad Arkansas team and a bad big 12 team and barely beat a poor Troy team, is our savior.

At least set out sights for a big time hire. Get someone who has proven he can't win in the sec. Someone like Petrino. Not a sunbelt coach.

[smootness]

Someone like Petrino. Not a sunbelt coach.

Ok, troll has fully outed himself. Haha.

[Political Hack]

we scheduled West Virginia when they were awful, but they were a top ranked team challenging for BCS spots when we played them.

Schedule:
1 SWAC
1-2 CUSA
1-2 Sunbelt

I'd love to have our one OOC away game rotate between Memphis, Tulane, UAB, & Ga State.

[4Dawgs4Life]

Ok, troll has fully outed himself. Haha.

So you think Huddy is a better coach than Petrino? If you say yes you are either being intellectually dishonest or you just don't know much about football.

Ask Bo Bounds about Petrino. Ask the experts about Petrino. They all say if you want to win then hire Petrino. Let preachers, at tsun, worry about morality and we will worry about winning.

[smootness]

I was simply pointing out that you said we need Petrino and not a Sun Belt coach and apparently either didn't see the hilariousness of that statement or were just trolling.

Come on, man.

[JeanPeesSittingDown]

Mullen is remaining our coach. PERIOD.

Everyone wants Hud, but he won't come here. He's going to go to Iowa IMO.

[engie]

So please tell us if Mullen can't get it done who do you think MSU can hire to get it done? Oh I know let's hire Saban. Maybe Miles? Oh I forgot Hudspeth, you know the guy who list two a bad Arkansas team and a bad big 12 team and barely beat a poor Troy team, is our savior.

At least set out sights for a big time hire. Get someone who has proven he can't win in the sec. Someone like Petrino. Not a sunbelt coach.

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[engie]

So you think Huddy is a better coach than Petrino? If you say yes you are either being intellectually dishonest or you just don't know much about football.

Ask Bo Bounds about Petrino. Ask the experts about Petrino. They all say if you want to win then hire Petrino. Let preachers, at tsun, worry about morality and we will worry about winning.

Did you miss Hudspeth destroying Petrino on his home field and completely shutting is ass down in the second half?

Petrino is good for a flash in the pan -- and a program left in shambles. He's literally proven this THREE times already. He's not a long-term answer.

[4Dawgs4Life]

Did you miss Hudspeth destroying Petrino on his home field and completely shutting is ass down in the second half?

Petrino is good for a flash in the pan -- and a program left in shambles. He's literally proven this THREE times already. He's not a long-term answer.

You just said it "long term" if that is what you want then you stay consistent and keep Mullen. But if you want results now then hire Petrino. Who yes us not a sunbelt coach. He is an sec coach who has to coach there for a year while in Exodus. You watch some program will take him and do big time things.

With Petrini we become an instant contender in the media for the west with Hudspeth we reset and start a rebuild and if, IF, he is successful he then leaves for a bigger job. Thus putting us back at square one. That's why you stay with Mullen and not blink and keep the relentless effort

[CadaverDawg]

You just said it "long term" if that is what you want then you stay consistent and keep Mullen. But if you want results now then hire Petrino. Who yes us not a sunbelt coach. He is an sec coach who has to coach there for a year while in Exodus. You watch some program will take him and do big time things.

With Petrini we become an instant contender in the media for the west with Hudspeth we reset and start a rebuild and if, IF, he is successful he then leaves for a bigger job. Thus putting us back at square one. That's why you stay with Mullen and not blink and keep the relentless effort

You're either 12, a girl, or a troll. My guess would be all 3

[smootness]

Alcorn - 55085
Troy - 55096
LSU - 57113
BG - 55148
UK - 55102

Are those attendance numbers? Because considering the opponents, that ain't too bad. It definitely doesn't rise to the level of, 'We're losing support! The HC has to go!'

[engie]

This place was setup to "get away from the pack" -- yet is becoming more unbearable than it has ever been over there with the amount of Rebel trolls here ONLY to stir the pot as faux Bulldog fans. It literally CAN NOT get anymore obvious.

[smootness]

Hey, 4Dawgs4Life, let me you ask you a question...is Urban Meyer a MAC coach? Or is Jim Tressel just an FCS coach?

Dang it, why am I engaging?!

[engie]

Are those attendance numbers? Because considering the opponents, that ain't too bad. It definitely doesn't rise to the level of, 'We're losing support! The HC has to go!'

That's paid attendance, yes. All games other than LSU had tickets remaining at kickoff and none of the other 4 ever had a full stadium.

Someone in our fanbase is buying a bunch of them at the last second -- probably for pennies on the dollar -- to preserve the sell-out streak. The "losing support" part will become obvious when revenue numbers come out.