Mullen and MSU history

[4Dawgs4Life]

I wonder if our fanbase realizes how far Mullen has actually brought our program. Think about the history of the football program. We have been mired in mediocrity or even less for the last 40 years. Other than the 98 season (a down year for several programs) you have to go all the way back to 1941 to find any meaningful success for football here. We have only been to 17 bowl games and Mullen is responsible for 3 of those. We had one of the smallest stadiums and lowest attendance in the league. Because of Mullen that has improved, DRASTICALLY! Because of Mullen we actually tailgate now, we show and have some passion now.

I realize with the great success Mullen has had that expectations and passion has risen. So I think Mullen is actually becoming a victim of his own success. Use to we didn't care. We just knew we would win in baseball and basketball and just wanted to be able to beat TSUN now and then in football.

So just realize what you might get when you guys are calling for Mullen's head and wanting Hud to replace him. I mean what has Hudspeth done anyway? He isn't proving anything ULLafayette. I suppose what's next is some will want to hire a girl's basketball coach. Bucky's offense won't be sustainable in the SEC and neither will Hud's. Mullen has his QB now and next year will be a huge year with Dak starting from the get go and having experience on the team. Also as I hear we will make a huge splash for a big time WR in recruiting. We are also in on a big time RB. So relax guys. This is the down year before we come back with vengance next year

Go Dawgs!

Beat the hell out of JFF

[CadaverDawg]

You lost me at "because of Mullen we tailgate". This shit is terrible.

[cheewgumm]

I don't even know where to begin, so I won't.

[4Dawgs4Life]

So you saw passion at MSU tailgating before the last four years?

[CadaverDawg]

So you saw passion at MSU tailgating before the last four years?

Yes.

But that's only one of the ridiculous things you said. You need to stop before someone that cares enough decides to shred your post

[4Dawgs4Life]

So you think we had passion and cared for football during the Felker, Croom and hell even Sherrill. It improved with Jackie but still we cared more about baseball and basketball.

All I'm saying is us trying to win in football is sort of like TSUN trying in basketball and baseball. They were way way behind. Mainly because they didn't care. Now they do and they have gotten better but still way behind us when it comes to those sports (Ray will get us back to our rightful place). But the point is they have never had success in those sports so it's much harder to overcome that history. For us it is just with football.

So personally think Mullen has done a much better job than even is apparent by Bowl wins and win/lose record.

[CadaverDawg]

Sorry, but I'm not wasting my time arguing with you man. You are completely clueless about what you're talking about. Welcome to the board, but I'll let someone else take this one if they feel like it.

[4Dawgs4Life]

I guess unless you are a Negative Nancy here you don't like em?

Would you prefer me start a thread about how we need to fire Mullen and go after Petrino?

Yea let's fire Mullen in the middle of stadium expansion. Let's reset the fan base next year when we barely fill the stadium now. How will the next two years look like in our stadium with a rebuild going on? Espcecially with the increased seating capacity. What if Hud or Petrino don't succeed good enough? Do we pay another buyout and look again? There is something to be said about stability ya know. I mean one bad year and people are jumbping ship. We must stay the course! Don't faze now. You guys are letting Freeze and that pathetic fan base dictate to you guys what we should do and what our expectations should be.

[CadaverDawg]

I guess unless you are a Negative Nancy here you don't like em?

Would you prefer me start a thread about how we need to fire Mullen and go after Petrino?

Yea let's fire Mullen in the middle of stadium expansion. Let's reset the fan base next year when we barely fill the stadium now. How will the next two years look like in our stadium with a rebuild going on? Espcecially with the increased seating capacity. What if Hud or Petrino don't succeed good enough? Do we pay another buyout and look again? There is something to be said about stability ya know. I mean one bad year and people are jumbping ship. We must stay the course! Don't faze now. You guys are letting Freeze and that pathetic fan base dictate to you guys what we should do and what our expectations should be.

No dumbass, I would rather you start a thread that makes some damn sense. Just stop. I could pick your OP apart but it's been done a thousand times over the last week or two.

This has nothing to do with negative vs positive...it has to do with you not knowing what the hell you're talking about. Ok?

There is seriously so many things wrong with every one of your posts in this thread, that it would take hours to list them all.

[HunterDawg]

I think a lot of our current unhappiness is due to our OOC schedule. At first, winning was winning. Now, we just don't get much satisfaction out of pounding SWAC teams or lower level Sunbelt teams, and beating Ky just isn't that rewarding.

So, now, once the creampuffs are gone, we are staring at Alabama, LSU, A&M etc. and nothing in between. All of a sudden our "big win" so far is Ky??

We need to schedule some OOC games we can win and still be proud of. It would help us a lot. Not Okla St. but not Alcorn St, either.

We need some positive vibes and we can't get those any more from beating cupcakes. Just can't. We can't impress recruits talking about that big win over Jackson St., either. Our losses suck, but our wins aren't much better, so where does that leave us?

[4Dawgs4Life]

Wow dumbass? I suppose that is ok talk on message boards nowadays huh?

This is one of our problems. We would rather infight and call each other dumbasses than all get behind Coach Mullen and this football team. You don't think those players know that we are trying to replace there coach? They see these type of things from boards like this. I mean it doesn't have to be all koolaid but sheesh.

So what do you think the problem is? If you can discuss with civility that is. Remeber I didn't name call.

[preachermatt83]

Dan.... Is that you?

[Apoplectic]

So what do you think the problem is? If you can discuss with civility that is. Remeber I didn't name call.

Well you can start with coaching then there's a lack of leadership and oh yea dont overlook VERY! POOR! COACHING!!!

[Dawg61]

Wow dumbass? I suppose that is ok talk on message boards nowadays huh?

This is one of our problems. We would rather infight and call each other dumbasses than all get behind Coach Mullen and this football team. You don't think those players know that we are trying to replace there coach? They see these type of things from boards like this. I mean it doesn't have to be all koolaid but sheesh.

So what do you think the problem is? If you can discuss with civility that is. Remeber I didn't name call.

The problem is this argument has occurred about a thousand times on this board in the last month. Nobody has the energy to keep saying the same shit like a Chatty Cathy doll. Quick summary. Nobody wants just Hud. It's Hud PLUS a complete overhaul in the compliance department AND the athletic department PLUS hiring 20+ new positions that MSU currently doesn't have. Welcome to the board and try to read a little at first before quickly jumping into posting the same subjects we've all already had 1,000 times over.

[engie]

Yay, it's this thread again...

Tailgating - an MSU tradition since 2009!!1!1

[Dawgbite]

Besides, anybody that was in their High School band and now has a computer with internet access obviously knows more about running a SEC athletic dept than a damn Yankee and the prodigal son in law. Just because they have spent their whole lives in this field and have steadily been promoted, doesn't mean they know what they are doing. *******

[Churchill]

If it ain`t Dan, it`s close relative or department employee.

[DownwardDawg]

I wonder if our fanbase realizes how far Mullen has actually brought our program. Think about the history of the football program. We have been mired in mediocrity or even less for the last 40 years. Other than the 98 season (a down year for several programs) you have to go all the way back to 1941 to find any meaningful success for football here. We have only been to 17 bowl games and Mullen is responsible for 3 of those. We had one of the smallest stadiums and lowest attendance in the league. Because of Mullen that has improved, DRASTICALLY! Because of Mullen we actually tailgate now, we show and have some passion now.

I realize with the great success Mullen has had that expectations and passion has risen. So I think Mullen is actually becoming a victim of his own success. Use to we didn't care. We just knew we would win in baseball and basketball and just wanted to be able to beat TSUN now and then in football.

So just realize what you might get when you guys are calling for Mullen's head and wanting Hud to replace him. I mean what has Hudspeth done anyway? He isn't proving anything ULLafayette. I suppose what's next is some will want to hire a girl's basketball coach. Bucky's offense won't be sustainable in the SEC and neither will Hud's. Mullen has his QB now and next year will be a huge year with Dak starting from the get go and having experience on the team. Also as I hear we will make a huge splash for a big time WR in recruiting. We are also in on a big time RB. So relax guys. This is the down year before we come back with vengance next year

Go Dawgs!

Beat the hell out of JFF

Wow. Hud has proven EVERYTHING he needs to. This shows you have no idea what you are talking about. He'll have a big time job very soon. Also, he runs a run first spread offense, something that is very sustainable for an SEC team.

[MrKotter]

I guess unless you are a Negative Nancy here you don't like em?

Would you prefer me start a thread about how we need to fire Mullen and go after Petrino?

Yea let's fire Mullen in the middle of stadium expansion. Let's reset the fan base next year when we barely fill the stadium now. How will the next two years look like in our stadium with a rebuild going on? Espcecially with the increased seating capacity. What if Hud or Petrino don't succeed good enough? Do we pay another buyout and look again? There is something to be said about stability ya know. I mean one bad year and people are jumbping ship. We must stay the course! Don't faze now. You guys are letting Freeze and that pathetic fan base dictate to you guys what we should do and what our expectations should be.

Do you believe anything you have been saying or are you just trying to be cute and stir the pot?

[4Dawgs4Life]

Wow. Hud has proven EVERYTHING he needs to. This shows you have no idea what you are talking about. He'll have a big time job very soon. Also, he runs a run first spread offense, something that is very sustainable for an SEC team.

Uh he barely beat Troy last night. Did you watch that game? Heck without a KO return he doesn't win. Yea great offense! Dan slaughtered that D and Hud couldn't outscore em.