NCAA revenue vs expenses

[sandwolf]

Ole Miss generates more donations than UA? for reals?

For reals. They had $31.7 mil in donations versus Bama's 29.7 mil. I found that pretty surprising.....I wouldn't have expected OM to be in the same ball park as any of the big 6.

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For reals. They had $31.7 mil in donations versus Bama's 29.7 mil. I found that pretty surprising.....I wouldn't have expected OM to be in the same ball park as any of the big 6.

Which should be a huge explanation as to why they don't want any negative publicity headed towards their boosters. OM has seen a huge increase in contributions since CHF was named the big fraud in charge, so they're going to continue to circle the wagons to keep the money train chugging along. Seeing this makes it all come full circle with the investigation and the "all-in" approach with the preachy beaver.

[Mimi's Babies]

34 Mississippi State SEC $94,903,405 $84,732,091 $0 0.0 No allocated funds....

24 Mississippi SEC $110,524,705 $97,105,043 $2,398,266 2.1

Is the allocated funds, from OM the bank account, for paying the players? Or is the allocated funds there to pay former coaches?
I don't see any offer of explanation for the Allocated funding...

????? Is the list of booster donations, from their 'club', public information? That list would be very entertaining for sure.

Remember the story about the bank and ATM.... hum.....

[LC Dawg]

Trial Lawyers and Doctors are good rackets to be in...

I keep seeing there are more State grads than UM grads enrolled at UMC so I hope this helps us in future giving.
On a separate note, most of the "Ole Miss lawyers" I know graduated from MC Law School. Lots of them in south Mississippi.

[Hypnodawg]

We seem to be leaving a lot of money on the table by not using student fees to boost the athletic budget. We are one of the few SEC schools that doesn't do this.

NO. No reason to burden the students to support profitable sports. The people struggling to make ends meet, while getting an education, don't need to help Dan get a pay raise.

[Mimi's Babies]

NO. No reason to burden the students to support profitable sports. The people struggling to make ends meet, while getting an education, don't need to help Dan get a pay raise.

For many families, Football season is family time... It is for us...

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34 Mississippi State SEC $94,903,405 $84,732,091 $0 0.0 No allocated funds....

24 Mississippi SEC $110,524,705 $97,105,043 $2,398,266 2.1

Is the allocated funds, from OM the bank account, for paying the players? Or is the allocated funds there to pay former coaches?
I don't see any offer of explanation for the Allocated funding...

????? Is the list of booster donations, from their 'club', public information? That list would be very entertaining for sure.

Remember the story about the bank and ATM.... hum.....

"Total Allocated: The sum of student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money allocated to the athletics department, minus certain funds the department transferred back to the school. The transfer amount cannot exceed the sum of student fees and direct institutional support that the department receives from the school. (Under NCAA reporting rules, any additional money transferred to the school cannot be considered part of the department?s annual operating revenues or expenses."


The NCAA and others consider student fees, direct and indirect institutional support and state money ?allocated,? or everything not generated by the department?s athletics functions."

What's really interesting is the "other" category in OM expenditures. The "other" expenses doubled between 2012 and 2013. hmmm.... Remind me again, what year did they have their breakthrough recruiting class?


Definition of "other" expenses: "Other: Includes guarantees paid to other schools; school-specific expenses for bowl games, severance payments to past coaches and staff; recruiting; team travel; equipment and uniforms; game day and camp expenses; fundraising and marketing costs; spirit group support; medical expense/insurance; conference dues; the value of university-provided support such as administrative services, facilities and grounds maintenance, security, risk management, utilities, depreciation and debt service that is not charged to the athletics department. For 2016, also includes meals and snacks provided for athletes beyond those provided under regular board plans and during team travel."

[1bigdawg]

I saw the article, but where is a link to the breakdown of the budgets?

[Mimi's Babies]

The RECRUITING word sticks out especially in January 2016...... for 6 weeks..... I can see where the $2.3 Million dollars went...

Remember the night before signing day February 2016.... when Freeze was boosting that HE raised $250,000.00 for the recruiting class of 2016....
This was when one of the recruiters spent much time in a certain school district....

[sandwolf]

I saw the article, but where is a link to the breakdown of the budgets?

Just click on the school and it pops up.

[HSVDawg]

NO. No reason to burden the students to support profitable sports. The people struggling to make ends meet, while getting an education, don't need to help Dan get a pay raise.

I don't think you get what these "student fees" are. They are a flat fee required to get season tickets that you pay before actually getting tickets. Typically they are something like $150 that you pay as an "activity fee", then you pay for the actual tickets which are only like $50. They are not required unless you want season tickets. And there are only like 7500 student tickets to go around anyways, so it would never be paid by every student.

ETA: Student fees are standard at just about every SEC school except MSU. However, in the attached study, they aren't always classified under "student fees" and are lumped into the "other revenue" column in many cases. Us and maybe Vandy are the only SEC schools where students can get season tickets for less than $100 and have no required fees on top of that. Like I said, it's money we are leaving on the table.

[PMDawg]

Jesus, you are insufferable.

Rep given. No faster way to kill NCAAF.

[BrunswickDawg]

I don't think you get what these "student fees" are. They are a flat fee required to get season tickets that you pay before actually getting tickets. Typically they are something like $150 that you pay as an "activity fee", then you pay for the actual tickets which are only like $50. They are not required unless you want season tickets. And there are only like 7500 student tickets to go around anyways, so it would never be paid by every student.

ETA: Student fees are standard at just about every SEC school except MSU. However, in the attached study, they aren't always classified under "student fees" and are lumped into the "other revenue" column in many cases. Us and maybe Vandy are the only SEC schools where students can get season tickets for less than $100 and have no required fees on top of that. Like I said, it's money we are leaving on the table.

As someone writing the check to cover that student fee - uh, no, I don't think the Student Activity Fees should be increased to give more money to athletics. I think it is a great commitment by the leaders of our university to not have fees like that paying for athletics. Athletics, run correctly, more than pay for themselves.

[Mimi's Babies]

OM....
YEAR TICKET SALES CONTR. RIGHTS/LICENSING STUDENT FEES SCHOOL FUNDS OTHER TOTAL REVENUES
2016 $20,616,537 $31,692,460 $50,160,473 $1,911,778 $2,577,501 $3,565,956 $110,524,705
2005 $6,416,035 $6,917,703 $7,798,728 $3,089,375 $499,210 $781,543 $25,502,594

Difference.
$14,200,502 $24,774,757 $42,361,745 -$1,177579 $2,078,291 $2,784,413 $85,022,201 Boy oh boy is the rue stirring......

[Mimi's Babies]

As someone writing the check to cover that student fee - uh, no, I don't think the Student Activity Fees should be increased to give more money to athletics. I think it is a great commitment by the leaders of our university to not have fees like that paying for athletics. Athletics, run correctly, more than pay for themselves.

With a new roof needed on the Sanderson center.... and the updates that need to be done.... That is where the student fees should be spent. BUT, the students receiving the free tickets should stay for the entire ballgame.....

[smootness]

Any business making $20 million or more a year ought to be paying its "primary employees" something. I know they are getting stipends now. They ought to be.

It's not a business.

[dawgman15]

With a new roof needed on the Sanderson center.... and the updates that need to be done.... That is where the student fees should be spent. BUT, the students receiving the free tickets should stay for the entire ballgame.....

As a student the tickets aren't free, they cost 50 dollars. I do agree though that the students should stay longer. I usually only notice others leaving when we are getting whooped.

[IMissJack]

[QUOTE=HSVDawg;771288]A lot of interesting info from that:

- Ole Miss is killing us in both ticket sales revenue and giving. Neither of which makes sense (especially the ticket sales). It will be interesting to see if that trend continues over the next year with the NCAA cloud looming.
- Anyone that thinks college basketball is a non revenue sport is kidding themselves. Kentucky and Arkansas each had a whopping $37 million in ticket sales revenue, about $9 million more than Georgia. It sure as hell ain't because of football tickets being more expensive at either place.
- We seem to be leaving a lot of money on the table by not using student fees to boost the athletic budget. We are one of the few SEC schools that doesn't do this.
- Our Adidas deal actually seems pretty good. We are in the ballpark with what Auburn gets from Under Armour and get a couple million more than OM does from Nike.[/QUO

If OM does not get to keep the SEC money for probation years, our number will go up and theirs down...

[Mimi's Babies]

[QUOTE=IMissJack;771458]

A lot of interesting info from that:

- Ole Miss is killing us in both ticket sales revenue and giving. Neither of which makes sense (especially the ticket sales). It will be interesting to see if that trend continues over the next year with the NCAA cloud looming.
- Anyone that thinks college basketball is a non revenue sport is kidding themselves. Kentucky and Arkansas each had a whopping $37 million in ticket sales revenue, about $9 million more than Georgia. It sure as hell ain't because of football tickets being more expensive at either place.
- We seem to be leaving a lot of money on the table by not using student fees to boost the athletic budget. We are one of the few SEC schools that doesn't do this.
- Our Adidas deal actually seems pretty good. We are in the ballpark with what Auburn gets from Under Armour and get a couple million more than OM does from Nike.[/QUO

If OM does not get to keep the SEC money for probation years, our number will go up and theirs down...

Wait, do I remember reading that OM has to pay a penalty on ALL of that money to the NCAA.... Great timing USA Today....

[Mimi's Babies]

As a student the tickets aren't free, they cost 50 dollars. I do agree though that the students should stay longer. I usually only notice others leaving when we are getting whooped.

I remember when the tickets were $100.00 per year..... for season tickets....