I'm on a mission...

[MadDawg]

Were you listening last Friday when Bounds ripped into Mullen for some of the stupid shit he did Thursday night? It wasn't pretty. I guess recruits listening to Bo's show coulda gotten the wrong impression too.

He also said multiple times those calling for Dan's head are complete morons. One of the few times I agree with the lifestyle.

[TrapGame]

He also said multiple times those calling for Dan's head are complete morons. One of the few times I agree with the lifestyle.

Oh, I'm not a Hud or Fire Mullen ASAP fan but I damn sure want to see some fire out of Mullen. Year five ain't the time to get a case of the limp dicks.

[SignalToNoise]

Who the hell rated this thread 5*?????

[smootness]

This message board has become part of the problem not the solution. THAT IS A FACT. Argue with me all you want...call me "genespage", say "yeah go team!", tell me "this is just a message board"... I don't give a shit. BC THAT IS NOT THE FOUNDATION OF MY ARGUMENT.

If you want to be part of the solution you fix the problem behind the scenes, not publicly. Anytime you publicly talk negative about yourself you will make the people who are listening believe it. Therefore, you have become part of the PROBLEM.

Bring it on!!!!

I think what you mean is, 'Message boards are the problem'. This is just the nature of them. It's essentially just herd mentality - someone says something and keeps repeating it, others buy in, and it becomes a consensus.

[AugustaDawg]

Engie,
I don't know if any recruits are saying that. I'm not that well connected to our program to have sources tell me those type things. But I do know that if they are saying those things our boosters and people who are connected to the program will damn well make sure the correct people know about it...behind the scenes.

This thread is already going away from the direction it was intended. It's not about what our fans THINK. It's about what they put out there publicly.

I agree with what you say Engie, I am well aware of those concerns and completely agree that if true, they need to be addressed. As a normal, not very connected fan I feel it's best to keep those thoughts to my self and let the more connected people handle those issues behind the scenes.

[Behrdawg]

This message board has become part of the problem not the solution. THAT IS A FACT. Argue with me all you want...call me "genespage", say "yeah go team!", tell me "this is just a message board"... I don't give a shit. BC THAT IS NOT THE FOUNDATION OF MY ARGUMENT.

If you want to be part of the solution you fix the problem behind the scenes, not publicly. Anytime you publicly talk negative about yourself you will make the people who are listening believe it. Therefore, you have become part of the PROBLEM.

Bring it on!!!!

As much money as I give and time and effort- I will voice my opinion all I want and you aren't going to prevent me from it. I demand excellence in all areas of my life, whether it be my career, my family or my expectations of my friends. If I am going to continue to give money, time and effort from my end for our football program- I am going to demand effort. If I don't see the effort from the team it lies on one man's shoulders, CDM. I will ask that he be held accountable when I see and watch shit on the field. I will also hold Stricklin accountable for not doing anything about the pathetic excuse of a compliance department that our administration employs.

[Dawg61]

I think you should be a fan of Iran football. I hear they have zero problems with people voicing their opinions on the Internet.

[biscuit]

Open your ears dude. Hell, Bo Bounds was discussing it this morning on his radio show....Validating my point.

How does Bo Bounds have any authority over MSU or what I think? It's just another so-so radio show with alot of crying, arguing and complaining. Opinions are like....well you know.

[FISHDAWG]

As much money as I give and time and effort- I will voice my opinion all I want and you aren't going to prevent me from it. I demand excellence in all areas of my life, whether it be my career, my family or my expectations of my friends. If I am going to continue to give money, time and effort from my end for our football program- I am going to demand effort. If I don't see the effort from the team it lies on one man's shoulders, CDM. I will ask that he be held accountable when I see and watch shit on the field. I will also hold Stricklin accountable for not doing anything about the pathetic excuse of a compliance department that our administration employs.

and the entire board say ...... AMEN !!

[CadaverDawg]

Damn it Augusta, you're my boy, but you aren't going to change the way message boards and fans react to the product they sink their time, money, and passion in to.

Now I agree that when it comes to actual players, I don't think they should be singled out (although Bell makes that hard as shit)...but when it comes to Coaches, they are fair game. Recruits know how fan bases are, and as Engie said, they may very well dislike the coaches too. I mean, after all, they are watching the same shitty coaching job that we are. So they can draw their own conclusions.

This isn't something that happens all the time. Coaching changes are 1 every 5-6 years or more, so when it's time to make a change, or getting close to that time, the fans are going to talk about it constantly.

The good thing is, when it comes to recruiting season, this board is going to be great because the majority of posters get it and know when to STFU.

Again, I get what you are saying, but this is a serious issue, not just someone trashing a guy for dropping a pass. We are concerned that Mullen could be leading us in the wrong direction, so people are going to talk about it. You won't see this type of reaction with many topics, but this is one of them. And yes it may be used against us, but it can hurt us any worse than the product on the field is hurting us. And Mullen isn't exactly lighting the trail up anyway....so I don't see it as a problem.

Besides, he can stop this shit by winning a damn game against a decent team. Beat SC or A&M, problem solved. Get blown out...and Augusta may not want to log in for a while, bc it will be worse. We just want to see changes, and sometimes the heat and comments that Mullen and Co see and hear from fans can help light a fire and put pressure on them to step it up. It can work both ways.

Just my opinion.

[BulldogBear]

3 months ago, I agreed with you.

I'm at the point now that I don't care what happens with one recruiting class. I'm discussing what I feel in in the better longterm interest of our program going forward. And let's face facts -- there are a few excellent pieces there, but it's not an elite class right now.

How do you know that there aren't a bunch of recruits out there that think, "damn, I really like it down at MSU -- and Coach Hudspeth down at ULL seems like a great guy -- but I can't stand Mullen and my recruiting coach Hevesy". Those guys exist too. And you don't have to go very far to run into one of them.

And "my" faction goes a helluva lot farther than 1%. We'll see if it's even a minority by the end of the season...

I'm not even off the fence at the moment. I was on the Mullen side till the KY game put me on the fence. But I AGREE with you on the one recruiting class. Whether it's Mullen that fixes the stupid crap or another coach that does. If we stop looking like _ss on the field and if we put together a great season next year with the stuff we have in place, the recruits will come. Winning will override whatever stupid crap we spew on this board.

[AugustaDawg]

and the entire board say ...... AMEN !!

Let me get this straight. You're saying that you donate money to our athletic program and that gives you the right to voice your opinion even if it affects the program in a negative way? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

That's like saying, Hey I invested in this business I have the right to run it into the ground.

[SnakePlissken]

alot of crying, arguing and complaining.

Didn't you just describe this discussion board as well as most others?

[biscuit]

Didn't you just describe this discussion board as well as most others?

True, but the noise factor is way different.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

That's like saying, Hey I invested in this business I have the right to run it into the ground.

You have a right to voice your opinion at the board meeting even if it's a negative one.

[Behrdawg]

Let me get this straight. You're saying that you donate money to our athletic program and that gives you the right to voice your opinion even if it affects the program in a negative way? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

That's like saying, Hey I invested in this business I have the right to run it into the ground.

Calling out our coaches lack of testicular fortitude is not affecting our program in a negative way. It is seeing it as it is. He has the fire- we know this. I just want him to get it back and quick frolicking around like a ****ing fairy.

And no, its like investing your money and watching it burn up on the table right before your very eyes. A smart investor demands excellence and expects it. We all should.

[CadaverDawg]

Calling out our coaches lack of testicular fortitude is not affecting our program in a negative way. It is seeing it as it is. He has the fire- we know this. I just want him to get it back and quick frolicking around like a ****ing fairy.

And no, its like investing your money and watching it burn up on the table right before your very eyes. A smart investor demands excellence and expects it. We all should.

Well said.

[FISHDAWG]

Let me get this straight. You're saying that you donate money to our athletic program and that gives you the right to voice your opinion even if it affects the program in a negative way? Come on man, you're smarter than that.

That's like saying, Hey I invested in this business I have the right to run it into the ground.

what part of that simple statement did you not understand ?

[AugustaDawg]

Cadaver, did you really just say our fans know when to STFU when it comes to recruiting? You and I both know that couldn't be any further from the truth. Hell, we had a nationally publicized article written up about us and CJ Johnson.

But going back to the topic on hand, you made the comment "concerned Mullen could be leading our program in the wrong direction" until that changes to "know Mullen is leading our program in the wrong direction" will I ever publicity turn my back our our head coach.
Before you say, "why wait until he runs our program into the ground to make a change" remember the point I a trying to make.
Let the people who have influence within our program handle this behind the scenes. As fans, it is out of our control as to what happens so when we start posting endless threads about firing our head coach we have become part of the problem, not the solution.

Mullen is going to be here next year, regardless. Every negative thread on hear about him is pointless and will only be used against him come signing day.

[CadaverDawg]

Cadaver, did you really just say our fans know when to STFU when it comes to recruiting? You and I both know that couldn't be any further from the truth. Hell, we had a nationally publicized article written up about us and CJ Johnson.

But going back to the topic on hand, you made the comment "concerned Mullen could be leading our program in the wrong direction" until that changes to "know Mullen is leading our program in the wrong direction" will I ever publicity turn my back our our head coach.
Before you say, "why wait until he runs our program into the ground to make a change" remember the point I a trying to make.
Let the people who have influence within our program handle this behind the scenes. As fans, it is out of our control as to what happens so when we start posting endless threads about firing our head coach we have become part of the problem, not the solution.

Mullen is going to be here next year, regardless. Every negative thread on hear about him is pointless and will only be used against him come signing day.

I disagree. You say fans don't make a difference, but they do. We fill the stadium. We donate money. We can decide to quit doing those things.

And I also disagree that Mullen will 100% be here next year regardless. You just said that certain people could influence that...do you not agree that they could influence a change in head coach this year if we miss a bowl game? Sure they could.

And yes, some of our fans know when to STFU about recruiting. That's why I mentioned THIS board. I think the core group of posters and moderators will make sure to keep the message as "proper" as possible this recruiting season. Of course we have idiots in our fan base....everybody does.