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05-31-2017, 10:44 PM
#161

Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
I just can't see OM releasing it to anybody affiliated with MSU first. If they don't have too. In their mind, I think it would be the worst possible scenario.
Since Rose Bowl filed the request for information OM should have to release the NOAs, as per the agreement of the attorneys, to Rose Bowl..... 
Please know that the MS Ethic's Commission meets the 1st Friday of each month at 10:00 am.
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05-31-2017, 11:00 PM
#162

Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
Since Rose Bowl filed the request for information OM should have to release the NOAs, as per the agreement of the attorneys, to Rose Bowl.....

Please know that the MS Ethic's Commission meets the 1st Friday of each month at 10:00 am.
OM could still release it to Rose Bowl on the date that was approved. However, I don't see anything from preventing OM from releasing the documents to whomever they wished prior to that date, if it was not someone who had also made a public records request. May not happen , but with that bunch you never know.
Last edited by yjnkdawg; 05-31-2017 at 11:04 PM.
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05-31-2017, 11:09 PM
#163

Originally Posted by
yjnkdawg
OM could still release it to Rose Bowl on the date that was approved. However, I don't see anything from preventing OM from releasing the documents to whomever they wished prior to that date, if it was not someone who had also made a public records request. May not happen , but with that bunch you never know.
My understanding, is that Freezus is the last interview on Finebaum on the last day of the SEC Coaches meetings... I do not see them giving anything to anyone before then.
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05-31-2017, 11:19 PM
#164

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
I also know another top guy at Ole Miss. He is a good guy, and thinks it's stupid to give a damn HS kid money to play football. However, he is fighting his ass off to lessen the penalties.
I think I know this one as well, at least he shares the exact description...
You're blind if you can't see improvement.....Freshmens......Strain.....Kick rocks and pound sand......Drag my Yankee ass outta here!......
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05-31-2017, 11:42 PM
#165

Originally Posted by
Jarius
If ole miss gets the death penalty I will take you out for drinks on me and we can get shitfaced together.
I think I might speak for the masses... We'll all have a drink to that!
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05-31-2017, 11:48 PM
#166

Originally Posted by
Jarius
If ole miss gets the death penalty I will take you out for drinks on me and we can get shitfaced together.
Sorry but I'm in AA. No more sh!tface for me but you are more than welcome.
But don't worry about congratulating me because when OM gets the DP I will be on here like
Last edited by Reason2succeed; 06-01-2017 at 12:13 AM.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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06-01-2017, 06:34 AM
#167
So is the NCAA going to just accept the self-imposed penalties? ****
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06-01-2017, 07:12 AM
#168

Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
Since Rose Bowl filed the request for information OM should have to release the NOAs, as per the agreement of the attorneys, to Rose Bowl.....

Please know that the MS Ethic's Commission meets the 1st Friday of each month at 10:00 am.
If i read OM's response letter to the EC they said they were releasing it publicly that week ( which I still think they try to dodge it somehow). The EC then tabled Rosies request.
They will more than likely put it on a web page like last time...... and make sure the server goes down, probably.
I hope they trot out Morgan Freeman to read it in another low budget video like they did in Febuary
Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.
When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times
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06-01-2017, 07:56 AM
#169

Originally Posted by
WSOPdawg
I'm with ya on this, Reason. People saying (like Confucius) "just stop with the DP talk" don't realize that we are closer to the DP than not. These TCUN bastards have not only cut their own throat, they made sure to sharpen the blade.
And why would we STOP talking about it as MSU fans??? If the shoe were on the other foot Ole Miss would be crowing it from the rooftops and they would have pushed that script to every news outlet that would listen. It makes NO sense to not put that out there every chance we have. And, regardless of what some of ya'll think or have been told by Ole Miss folks, the DP is on the table. Don't think for a second that heavy hitters in the SEC and NCAA are not pushing for it to happen.
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06-01-2017, 08:26 AM
#170

Originally Posted by
Dawgology
And why would we STOP talking about it as MSU fans??? If the shoe were on the other foot Ole Miss would be crowing it from the rooftops and they would have pushed that script to every news outlet that would listen.
Oh and lets be clear here. Those news outlets, you know the ones that won't touch this OM/NCAA story with a ten foot pole, yeah, they'd be writing a story EVERY 17ING DAY if it was us. We wouldn't get a commitment from a 2-star 135 lb linebacker without an article written pointing out that we are soon to be on probation. And all the speculation of the DP? Wouldn't be just message board talk, it would be the headline on the Clarion Ledger.
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06-01-2017, 08:29 AM
#171
Rep given to Dawgology and MadDawg. See I spread it around!!!
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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06-01-2017, 08:33 AM
#172

Originally Posted by
Dawgology
And why would we STOP talking about it as MSU fans??? If the shoe were on the other foot Ole Miss would be crowing it from the rooftops and they would have pushed that script to every news outlet that would listen. It makes NO sense to not put that out there every chance we have. And, regardless of what some of ya'll think or have been told by Ole Miss folks, the DP is on the table. Don't think for a second that heavy hitters in the SEC and NCAA are not pushing for it to happen.
I just don't see in any shape, form, fashion, or circumstances where the the SEC wants any member to get the DP.
That to me would be insane.
Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.
When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times
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06-01-2017, 08:40 AM
#173

Originally Posted by
Bucky Dog
He has all of this Spider. Someone can look back at a post from me over a year ago saying Barney has kept records of all the burner phones and a log of the cash he got from boosters, and gave out to players. Barney has their nuts in a gigantic vise!
Barney told anyone who would listen, including a close friend, that he knew from the start what Freeze and the Network was doing and what his role was. He also knew he was put in a position to be the fall guy. He said to my friend over a year ago that if they fire him and try and make him the fall guy, he would bury their ass. He has records.
If this is accurate, it's the death blow. The good news is it'll give them plenty of time to figure out how to rebrand their team. By the time they take the field again, they'll be the Mississippi Black Bears and Col Reb will be an antique of the past.
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06-01-2017, 08:42 AM
#174
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
I just don't see in any shape, form, fashion, or circumstances where the the SEC wants any member to get the DP.
That to me would be insane.
Chance to get Oklahoma into the SEC and bury the Big 12
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06-01-2017, 08:47 AM
#175

Originally Posted by
Random Poster
Chance to get Oklahoma into the SEC and bury the Big 12
Amongst many other things. The member institutes (in regards to athletic programs) do not see other athletic programs as team mates. They see them as business rivals. From an academic standpoint...sure. But the DP doesn't impact academics as much as it does an athletic department. In fact, at most universities those two things are almost entirely seperate.
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06-01-2017, 08:47 AM
#176

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
I just don't see in any shape, form, fashion, or circumstances where the the SEC wants any member to get the DP.
That to me would be insane.
This. As nice as it is to think about, Ole Miss ain't getting a death penalty. It kinda makes us look silly to even speculate that it's possible.
Besides 4/40 with a 2 year bowl ban and a Freeze show cause ruling would probably be more crippling. They're going to be wandering in the wilderness for the better part of a decade.
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06-01-2017, 08:52 AM
#177
Senior Member

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
I just don't see in any shape, form, fashion, or circumstances where the the SEC wants any member to get the DP.
That to me would be insane.
I could see a scenario where they would want to get them kicked out. The SEC doesn't need two schools in one of the lowest populated states. Replace UM with say NC State and the SEC would be in much better shape financially due to gaining NC in the tv market. Plus, the conference doesn't have to deal with a fan base stuck in the 1860's.
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06-01-2017, 08:59 AM
#178

Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
This. As nice as it is to think about, Ole Miss ain't getting a death penalty. It kinda makes us look silly to even speculate that it's possible.
Besides 4/40 with a 2 year bowl ban and a Freeze show cause ruling would probably be more crippling. They're going to be wandering in the wilderness for the better part of a decade.
I agree with your first paragraph mostly. For me it has to do with the fact there is no repeat offender triggered or a scandal outside of the infractions, like with Penn St when the COI admitted they discussed the death penalty. They are not going to deviate from the by-laws without just cause.
I do disagree with the second paragraph about any penalty structure being more crippling than the death penalty. For a P5 football program to get DP, in would cripple the entire athletic department and with SMU it hurt them academically as well for several years. Student numbers and donors both dropped.
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06-01-2017, 09:09 AM
#179

Originally Posted by
Bubb Rubb
This. As nice as it is to think about, Ole Miss ain't getting a death penalty. It kinda makes us look silly to even speculate that it's possible.
Besides 4/40 with a 2 year bowl ban and a Freeze show cause ruling would probably be more crippling. They're going to be wandering in the wilderness for the better part of a decade.
I am NOT sure about the DP.... But OM may WISH they had been given the DP.... instead of the noose that is about to hang them.
There will be more than freezus with the show cause (s).....
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06-01-2017, 09:23 AM
#180

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
I just don't see in any shape, form, fashion, or circumstances where the the SEC wants any member to get the DP.
That to me would be insane.
You may not see it now (through your blue and red sunglasses) but after OM gets popped by the NCAA they will provide almost no value to the SEC for the next 5-10 years while their football program is in ruins. They will basically be the University of Memphis South.
Furthermore they will be the SMU of college football, the dirtiest program in the NCAA, and the SEC will be seen as harboring the criminal.
Death penalty or bust!!!***
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