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05-31-2017, 07:18 PM
#141

Originally Posted by
Pollodawg
It's too hard to scapegoat Barney when the blame, per the new NCAA matrix, makes Freeze the ultimate one responsible. They won't get off on the old "Freeze didn't know" act.
No lawyer in the history of lawyers has ever talked to a reporter without an agenda for his client in mind. A guess is this is just an attempt to lessen the blow on his client's future. Innocence or guilt for everyone connected to this is likely a foregone conclusion. The NCAA has what it needs. This lawyer is just trying to minimize damage for his client.
And I do hope Barney got a deal and rolled. If he had proof of lies, my oh my.
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05-31-2017, 07:32 PM
#142
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05-31-2017, 07:44 PM
#143

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
My sources ain't Yancy. That said,no matter if he falls on the sword or OM makes him out as a lying outlaw rouge, Barney is getting all the blame, no matter what.
Barney taking the hit means nothing to anyone but fans reading stories. Barney was an employee of OM. Rouge or accomplice, it doesn't matter. Freeze has been cited as well as their program for LOIC. The NCAA has stated their case. Barney being rouge only allows for the narrative that it wasn't Freeze and the new penalty structure SPECIFICALLY addresses that.
It was always the fault of the HC and AD for not preventing a rouge even if you are dumb enough to believe that crap narrative.
Freeze isn't getting suspended. The NCAA cannot allow that defense at this point. This is not a bad act or couple of bad coaches. It's a culture that is undeniably a black mark on the sport.
That whole administration is about to be made an example of. WHO specifically is to blame is for message boards and blogs.
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05-31-2017, 07:54 PM
#144

Originally Posted by
gravedigger
Barney taking the hit means nothing to anyone but fans reading stories. Barney was an employee of OM. Rouge or accomplice, it doesn't matter. Freeze has been cited as well as their program for LOIC. The NCAA has stated their case. Barney being rouge only allows for the narrative that it wasn't Freeze and the new penalty structure SPECIFICALLY addresses that.
It was always the fault of the HC and AD for not preventing a rouge even if you are dumb enough to believe that crap narrative.
Freeze isn't getting suspended. The NCAA cannot allow that defense at this point. This is not a bad act or couple of bad coaches. It's a culture that is undeniably a black mark on the sport.
That whole administration is about to be made an example of. WHO specifically is to blame is for message boards and blogs.
Everyone there knew what was going on and some other crap happened after OM canned BF..... the recruiting violations were still happening when school was out....
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05-31-2017, 07:57 PM
#145

Originally Posted by
gravedigger
Barney taking the hit means nothing to anyone but fans reading stories. Barney was an employee of OM. Rouge or accomplice, it doesn't matter. Freeze has been cited as well as their program for LOIC. The NCAA has stated their case. Barney being rouge only allows for the narrative that it wasn't Freeze and the new penalty structure SPECIFICALLY addresses that.
It was always the fault of the HC and AD for not preventing a rouge even if you are dumb enough to believe that crap narrative.
Freeze isn't getting suspended. The NCAA cannot allow that defense at this point. This is not a bad act or couple of bad coaches. It's a culture that is undeniably a black mark on the sport.
That whole administration is about to be made an example of. WHO specifically is to blame is for message boards and blogs.
True, and I might add Barney being rogue also only allows for the narrative that it wasn't Freeze and the new penalty structure will specifically address that.
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05-31-2017, 08:10 PM
#146
???? Was Freezus at his old tricks left over from his FORMER stint at OM???? ACT Test fraud was.....
Last edited by Mimi's Babies; 05-31-2017 at 08:14 PM.
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05-31-2017, 08:15 PM
#147
Question? Has the IRS ever become involved in an NCAA case after names were named and $1000's of cash given from a booster to a player or his family has been proven?
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05-31-2017, 08:27 PM
#148
Junior Member

Originally Posted by
gravedigger
Barney taking the hit means nothing to anyone but fans reading stories. Barney was an employee of OM. Rouge or accomplice, it doesn't matter.
Barney needs to stop wearing make-up
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05-31-2017, 08:44 PM
#149

Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Question? Has the IRS ever become involved in an NCAA case after names were named and $1000's of cash given from a booster to a player or his family has been proven?
The Albert Means, Logan Young case went before a Federal grand jury with Lynn Lang (Means HS coach) pleading guilty for racketeering conspiracy and the IRS was involved
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05-31-2017, 09:00 PM
#150

Originally Posted by
Random Poster
Barney needs to stop wearing make-up
bull
fits the narrative perfectly. he's a red cheeked collaborator without credibility.
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05-31-2017, 09:02 PM
#151

Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
???? Was Freezus at his old tricks left over from his FORMER stint at OM???? ACT Test fraud was.....
I've seen rebs on twitter dismissing the ACT stuff as it was under Nutt. Hey rebs, you're going to pay dearly for stuff from the Nutt years.
There's going to be a good chunk of scholarships and some show causes tacked to the wall before they even start in on the Freeze years.
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05-31-2017, 09:07 PM
#152

Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
I've seen rebs on twitter dismissing the ACT stuff as it was under Nutt. Hey rebs, you're going to pay dearly for stuff from the Nutt years.
There's going to be a good chunk of scholarships and some show causes tacked to the wall before they even start in on the Freeze years.
Nutt seems to think he has been left out... I was wondering if this mess did not go back to Coach O......
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05-31-2017, 09:09 PM
#153
Thanks, Really Clark?, I forgot about the Means case. What's good enough for Bama is good enough for UNM in a case like this.
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05-31-2017, 10:09 PM
#154
WLOX on the coast just covered story as their third or fourth item. Granted it was only using tape of Barney's lawyer, but surprising to see it in Mississippi media.
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05-31-2017, 10:17 PM
#155

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
Barney has been accused of lying to the NCAA... FACT.
Holler at Rosie if you don't like the idea that the NCAA will not charge something unless they have hard evidence. He has been saying that not me. I'm repeating what he has said
These are two totally separate issues. Yes, he was accused of giving false info while still employed by om.
I'm not talking about what om will be explicitly charged with. For the record, i don't think there is going to be a list of allegations in the NOA based strictly on info given by BF.
What I do believe is that the NCAA, even knowing BF lied to them while an employee at OM, will listen to his story post termination and use his info to corroborate other info/allegations. Know how I know that? Because they interviewed him 5 times. They didn't keep interviewing him over and over if they deemed him not credible and were not willing to use his info. Holler at Rosie if you don't think the NCAA uses info that may not be strong enough to justify separate allegations to corroborate other info they have learned.
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05-31-2017, 10:20 PM
#156

Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
Nutt seems to think he has been left out... I was wondering if this mess did not go back to Coach O......
Last year's NOA only went back to 2010. I haven't heard anything to indicate the addendum will address violations prior to Freeze, but you never know.
http://athleticsworking.wp2.olemiss....ed-5.26.15.pdf
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05-31-2017, 10:31 PM
#157

Originally Posted by
Dawgowar
No lawyer in the history of lawyers has ever talked to a reporter without an agenda for his client in mind. A guess is this is just an attempt to lessen the blow on his client's future. Innocence or guilt for everyone connected to this is likely a foregone conclusion. The NCAA has what it needs. This lawyer is just trying to minimize damage for his client.
And I do hope Barney got a deal and rolled. If he had proof of lies, my oh my.
BF should have proof of lies... I hope he has the proof on the boosters donations, bank , Atm and the ACT Fraud.....
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05-31-2017, 10:38 PM
#158

Originally Posted by
Mimi's Babies
It will NOT be this week.... Freezus is scheduled for his interview with Finebaum after that time, I believe that it is the LAST interview... according to Finebaum last week. WHEN/IF they release the NOA THEN who will receive a copy of it first -- Rose Bowl?
I just can't see OM releasing it to anybody affiliated with MSU first. If they don't have too. In their mind, I think it would be the worst possible scenario.
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05-31-2017, 10:39 PM
#159

Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
The NOA is before August 2015... Heck what I saw happen happened AFTER August 2015.... to the last day of school 2017.
Just tuck this into the back of your mind...... A certain local high school has NEVER had a person recruited for track and field... but did in 2016 by OM... they thought that they would get the boy friend also.
Last edited by Mimi's Babies; 05-31-2017 at 11:23 PM.
Reason: Oops, I missed something......
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05-31-2017, 10:39 PM
#160

Originally Posted by
Spiderman
The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.
He has all of this Spider. Someone can look back at a post from me over a year ago saying Barney has kept records of all the burner phones and a log of the cash he got from boosters, and gave out to players. Barney has their nuts in a gigantic vise!
Barney told anyone who would listen, including a close friend, that he knew from the start what Freeze and the Network was doing and what his role was. He also knew he was put in a position to be the fall guy. He said to my friend over a year ago that if they fire him and try and make him the fall guy, he would bury their ass. He has records.
Last edited by Bucky Dog; 05-31-2017 at 10:58 PM.
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