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    They are not getting the death penalty. Stop with this.

    The NCAA will credit Barneys testimony bc the want to-they know OM is dirty and will use every bit of evidence they can to support the very harsh penalties they are about to hand down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Token Bammer View Post
    Spider, what is your opinion on penalties and/or show causes?
    No idea... the OM connects I have think it's gonna be rough. But nothing they can't endure for a couple of years. They just wanna save Freeze.

    What do I think they should get? Couple year bowl ban, some show causes, and 10-12 schollys for 3 or 4 years.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    This case is laying the basis of what punishment programs get with the new matrix. If UNM doesn't get hammered back into the stone age then hello wild west.
    Yep
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.
    The NCAA could still think he is a liar and rouge but with the number of staff members already named it more than likely will trigger the head coaches responsibility mandate regardless. The "I didn't know what was going on" defense is no longer valid. He has to specifically monitor his staff's activities and all of these new allegations were while they knew they were being investigated. And immunity may have already been used to confirm what they got on Barney. He would just be admitting to what they already knew.

    The other thing in the article that I found interesting was about the $13-15,000 given to a student athlete COMMITTED to another school. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Leo never committed to us until signing day. That sounds a lot like Scarborough to me. I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    after watching the video after only reading the article, that lawyer isn't actually screaming his clients innocence. his quote is weird.... ?To use the excuse well everyone is doing it, that?s just not a good defense,? Farrar?s lawyer, Bruse Loyd of Jones, Gillaspia & Loyd LLP,? said. ?If you don?t (follow the rules), you?ll find yourself in a position that the University of Mississippi Athletic Department has found itself.?

    Who's excuse that is not a good defense? Barns or OM's? OM isn't gonna use that defense, they are screaming innocence.

    The lawyer obviously leaked the info to somebody at that station. Again, why there? He is a Texas lawyer and it's a Mississippi case.

    It makes it seem that maybe, again MAYBE, it's a cover up of Barney's golden parachute. That what I have truly believed all along is that, Barney and the boosters would take the fall. That they would all tell the committee that it was all them, done in a way Hugh or OM could never have known about.

    Reading the article at first looked like OM had screwed Barn, but now it could be just another part of the plan. The article blew my mind because i couldn't see how screwing Barn could happen unless they got him dis credited.

    Who knows?

    Unlike Freeze in actuality, I'm ready for this to be over.

    Either he is a true sociopath, or he is confident he is gonna be good.

    We will know at some point if it's going sideways for OM..... when they start eating their own.
    I was thinking the same thing. What kind of defense lawyer is going to make those kind of statements to the media? Something is not right here. Attorneys always deny everything for their clients. This guy is basically inferring Barn is guilty. What's up with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    No idea... the OM connects I have think it's gonna be rough. But nothing they can't endure for a couple of years. They just wanna save Freeze.

    What do I think they should get? Couple year bowl ban, some show causes, and 10-12 schollys for 3 or 4 years.
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    after watching the video after only reading the article, that lawyer isn't actually screaming his clients innocence. his quote is weird.... ?To use the excuse well everyone is doing it, that?s just not a good defense,? Farrar?s lawyer, Bruse Loyd of Jones, Gillaspia & Loyd LLP,? said. ?If you don?t (follow the rules), you?ll find yourself in a position that the University of Mississippi Athletic Department has found itself.?

    Who's excuse that is not a good defense? Barns or OM's? OM isn't gonna use that defense, they are screaming innocence.

    The lawyer obviously leaked the info to somebody at that station. Again, why there? He is a Texas lawyer and it's a Mississippi case.

    It makes it seem that maybe, again MAYBE, it's a cover up of Barney's golden parachute. That what I have truly believed all along is that, Barney and the boosters would take the fall. That they would all tell the committee that it was all them, done in a way Hugh or OM could never have known about.

    Reading the article at first looked like OM had screwed Barn, but now it could be just another part of the plan. The article blew my mind because i couldn't see how screwing Barn could happen unless they got him dis credited.

    Who knows?

    Unlike Freeze in actuality, I'm ready for this to be over.

    Either he is a true sociopath, or he is confident he is gonna be good.

    We will know at some point if it's going sideways for OM..... when they start eating their own.
    OM is going to admit the acts happened, just that it and Freeze are not to blame, only Barney and boosters and others not named Freeze or OM are to blame. That defense ain't going to work with the new head coach legislation in place. Only question left is whether Freeze survives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.
    Stop saying this. The assumption that he's not believable or is discredited is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmccgc View Post
    I was thinking the same thing. What kind of defense lawyer is going to make those kind of statements to the media? Something is not right here. Attorneys always deny everything for their clients. This guy is basically inferring Barn is guilty. What's up with that?
    Yeah, he was basically saying Barney did all this and that's why OM is in this shape.

    Fits what i was told from day one was the plan... Barney and the boosters falling on the sword.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    The NCAA ain't gonna believe him unless he has recordings, pictures or documents. Very concrete proof. Because OM is painting him as a bat shit crazy rouge who is nothing but a liar.
    Well I wouldn't put it past the guy to have that stuff. Obviously taping people is part of the culture there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroons View Post
    Stop saying this. The assumption that he's not believable or is discredited is wrong.
    I thought after reading the article that was maybe what had happened. Now, I'm not sure.

    But yes, if he all of a sudden did come out with a bunch of new dirt, they wouldn't give it much credibility.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    after watching the video after only reading the article, that lawyer isn't actually screaming his clients innocence. his quote is weird.... ?To use the excuse well everyone is doing it, that?s just not a good defense,? Farrar?s lawyer, Bruse Loyd of Jones, Gillaspia & Loyd LLP,? said. ?If you don?t (follow the rules), you?ll find yourself in a position that the University of Mississippi Athletic Department has found itself.?

    Who's excuse that is not a good defense? Barns or OM's? OM isn't gonna use that defense, they are screaming innocence.

    The lawyer obviously leaked the info to somebody at that station. Again, why there? He is a Texas lawyer and it's a Mississippi case.

    It makes it seem that maybe, again MAYBE, it's a cover up of Barney's golden parachute. That what I have truly believed all along is that, Barney and the boosters would take the fall. That they would all tell the committee that it was all them, done in a way Hugh or OM could never have known about.

    Reading the article at first looked like OM had screwed Barn, but now it could be just another part of the plan. The article blew my mind because i couldn't see how screwing Barn could happen unless they got him dis credited.

    Who knows?

    Unlike Freeze in actuality, I'm ready for this to be over.

    Either he is a true sociopath, or he is confident he is gonna be good.

    We will know at some point if it's going sideways for OM..... when they start eating their own.

    Goodness you have a lot of faith in Hugh Freeze. They are not that smart and things are not going perfectly according to OM's plan. It sounds like you are buying into OM's delusions and hype.

    This lawyer is on TV throwing OM under the bus and you are saying it's all part of the plan. Snap out of it. It is what it looks like. OM tried to throw Barney under the bus and Barney is fighting back with everything he has. One thing he can do is send his lawyer out to paint OM as the dirty program they are.
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    Maybe Germans but Farrar

    Hired his own attorney and that attorney is saying that OM tried to single out farrar and use him as a scapegoat. He said that OM will get the closest thing to the death penalty as can be given without actually getting it. Any doubts I had concerning the severity of the coming penalties are now gone. OM is getting the hammer. Im not gonna link it because it's sds but it's a wonderful read.
    Romans 5:8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    Goodness you have a lot of faith in Hugh Freeze. They are not that smart and things are not going perfectly according to OM's plan. It sounds like you are buying into OM's delusions and hype.

    This lawyer is on TV throwing OM under the bus and you are saying it's all part of the plan. Snap out of it. It is what it looks like. OM tried to throw Barney under the bus and Barney is fighting back with everything he has. One thing he can do is send his lawyer out to paint OM as the dirty program they are.
    Let's see if Barney sues them. As i said, you will know it's going sideways when they start eating their own. And this isn't Freeze's strategy, it's the big wigs at OM.

    They have been doing this for years. It's like the letters going to B'ham so nobody could get them. They are cut throat MFer's when it comes to stuff like this.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    No idea... the OM connects I have think it's gonna be rough. But nothing they can't endure for a couple of years. They just wanna save Freeze.

    What do I think they should get? Couple year bowl ban, some show causes, and 10-12 schollys for 3 or 4 years.
    Please tell me when OM sources have been right and truthful about anything involving this. They are blowing smoke up your butt. Hugh Freeze doesn't look like a dead man walking and blow off reporters at the very mention of the investigation if OM has their master plan in place and it's working perfectly.

    OM is screwed and they know it. They just believe that they are beyond the point of contrition so they are holding on to Freeze and any shread of hope.
    Last edited by Reason2succeed; 05-31-2017 at 10:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    Let's see if Barney sues them. As i said, you will know it's going sideways when they start eating their own. And this isn't Freeze's strategy, it's the big wigs at OM.

    They have been doing this for years. It's like the letters going to B'ham so nobody could get them. They are cut throat MFer's when it comes to stuff like this.
    Houston Nutt is on the verge of suing them. They are just waiting for the penalties to come down. The so-called big wigs at OM are about to be exposed by a (no offense Rosebowl) amateur journalist with a podcast. They may have bought off the local news with their money and connection but all of it is unraveling.
    Death penalty or bust!!!***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    No idea... the OM connects I have think it's gonna be rough. But nothing they can't endure for a couple of years. They just wanna save Freeze.

    What do I think they should get? Couple year bowl ban, some show causes, and 10-12 schollys for 3 or 4 years.
    Nothing they can't endure for a couple of years? Lmfao. What they SHOULD get? 10-12? Damn dude, you are as delusional as the 9 over 3 nafoom crowd. So you are saying 10-12 is what you would suggest if it were up toyou? Are you that concerned about the mental health of your rebel buddies or are you really concerned about the future of Ole Miss football?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bully13 View Post
    Nothing they can't endure for a couple of years? Lmfao. What they SHOULD get? 10-12? Damn dude, you are as delusional as the 9 over 3 nafoom crowd. So you are saying 10-12 is what you would suggest if it were up toyou? Are you that concerned about the mental health of your rebel buddies or are you really concerned about the future of Ole Miss football?
    I think he meant 10-12 per year for 3-4 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    Houston Nutt is on the verge of suing them. They are just waiting for the penalties to come down. The so-called big wigs at OM are about to be exposed by a (no offense Rosebowl) amateur journalist with a podcast. They may have bought off the local news with their money and connection but all of it is unraveling.
    My sources ain't Yancy. That said,no matter if he falls on the sword or OM makes him out as a lying outlaw rouge, Barney is getting all the blame, no matter what.
    Not only did Mississippi State embarrass LSU on this night. Davis Wade Stadium wrecked Tiger Stadium in music choice, atmosphere and, most of all, volume.

    When I'm 80 and deaf, it's not going to be all those Springsteen concerts or Queen at Municipal Auditorium in New Orleans on Halloween Night in 1978, it will be this game...............Glen Guilbeau--Sherveport Times

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