Scrimmage vs UAB

[FreeBoosie]

According to various sources, the basketball team had a closed door scrimmage against UAB this weekend. With these scrimmages, there are no outside media sources, no score is kept, and the outcome is kept within the team. I have it on good accord that we did lose the scrimmage (I don't know the final score, as it wasn't kept) but does anyone have info on how it went?

[JOHNHEVESYMADE]

While the score wasn't kept on the scoreboard, they kept the stats on the bench. State lost supposedly did well defensively but had trouble rebounding and shooting free throws. Not sure how we can solve the poor rebounding considering how the lack of depth at center. Bloodman played but had a splint on his hand. Is Jacoby Davis going to play this year? It has been 13 months since his injury. Seems a lot longer than normal to recover from surgery. Really wish we had Wendell now considering the rules change with defense and fouls.

[Dawg61]

We will have to be a very up tempo style team to win. Hope the new additions including Staley and Wilson can contribute or we'll be brutal again.

[Coach34]

I don't think Wilson is playing

[Political Hack]

what are the new defense/fouls rule changes? six fouls? what about defense?

[starkvegasdawg]

but had trouble rebounding and shooting free throws. .

So we still can't make a free throw. How sad is that? One of the fundamentals of the game and we still can't get it down. I was hoping that was just a Stansbury thing but I see, so far at least, it is transcended coaches. I know that cost us more than one game under Stansbury. I hope Ray can get it turned around before it costs us games under him.

[601Dawg]

Coach34 you wanted Change and Stans to be gone which I disagreed with at first but finally gave in towards the end of his last season. However, now I'm really starting to have my doubts about Rick Ray. He hasn't signed or gotten a commitment from a 4 star recruit yet. He will play this season with only one true post player (Gavin Ware) Two of the bigs he signed are ineligible (Not sure if he knows the tricks on how to get players cleared yet) You gotta have some guys who are NBA or European pro league type pros on your team if you want to make the NCAA tournament and have a chance to win the SEC. We currently have NONE

I just see Ray is a good guy and good X's and O's coach who is in WAY, WAY over his head. He may prove me wrong but I see another season this year similar to last season.

[Bo Darville]

the outcome is kept within the team. I have it on good accord that we did lose the scrimmage

interesting

[Thick]

Just remember who made the hire. He pissed a lot of people off, and then begged their forgiveness. I will be surprised if he has a say at all on the next hire.

[Coach34]

Coach34 you wanted Change and Stans to be gone which I disagreed with at first but finally gave in towards the end of his last season. However, now I'm really starting to have my doubts about Rick Ray. He hasn't signed or gotten a commitment from a 4 star recruit yet. He will play this season with only one true post player (Gavin Ware) Two of the bigs he signed are ineligible (Not sure if he knows the tricks on how to get players cleared yet) You gotta have some guys who are NBA or European pro league type pros on your team if you want to make the NCAA tournament and have a chance to win the SEC. We currently have NONE

I just see Ray is a good guy and good X's and O's coach who is in WAY, WAY over his head. He may prove me wrong but I see another season this year similar to last season.

We had to hire someone like Rick Ray because of Stands and toxicity of the program. Stricklin sure didnt help things.

We are going to win more than 10 games Bundy. We have no depth in the post because of your boy Stands former player smoking his way out of college. The toxicity of the former regime still infects the program.

There is no doubt the man demands effort and can coach. Can he recruit? That will define his tenure. Nobody denies that in the least

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

So is it year 4 he needs to make the tourney or he's gone? Because I think that's reasonable.

[smootness]

Is Borchert playing yet? If not, that would help explain our troubles rebounding.

With Ware, Borchert, and Roq Johnson, we should be decent in that area.

As far as free throws, look around college basketball if you think this is just a Mississippi State problem. The issue was actually overblown by fans during Stans' tenure. There just aren't a lot of teams who make FTs as often as fans feel they 'should'. There are a lot of teams who end up in the 60's...many Duke teams in the past included, but I don't think a lot of people are questioning their coaching.

It's actually not easy to get a guy to increase his FT % by a ton during his college years. For the most part, the shooter you get is the shooter that leaves.

Losing Steele, and surprisingly Lewis, will hurt us there. Sword is a bad FT shooter, Ware and Roq Johnson are obviously not good. Hopefully Ready, Davis, and Applewhite can make some.

[smootness]

So is it year 4 he needs to make the tourney or he's gone? Because I think that's reasonable.

I don't think it's that cut and dried, but it's fairly reasonable. I think if we're in the same place we are now by the end of next year, we'll have to look hard at what we have.

But if he makes some progress this year and by year 3 has us on the bubble, I don't necessarily think he has to make it into the Tourney in year 4 or he's gone. I just want to see progress, the kind of progress that lets me feel confident he's the guy for the job.

That said, in year 4, Sword, Thomas, and Ware will all be seniors, Ready will be a junior, and we'll have had time to see if he can bring in some impact recruits. So yes, I think it's pretty reasonable to say he needs to have that team in the Tourney.

[smootness]

I honestly don't see what would make anyone say Ray's in over his head yet. He coached one year, after being given less than pretty much any other coach in a major conference to work with (and that was before the injuries), and it was actually a much better year than could be expected.

He's had one full recruiting class, and even in that class he was behind the 8-ball compared to most coaches. Ready seems to be a good signing, we haven't seen Ndoye yet, and we may still bring Daniels in.

[MarketingBully01]

Yep, and if we got rid of Mullen that same guy will make a football hire. You really think we will end up with Hud with this clown making the coaching decision? The other sad fact is UAB made a better hire then we did.

[smootness]

The other sad fact is UAB made a better hire then we did.

Based on what?

I'm telling you, I think you guys are going to be singing a much different tune in a couple of years.

[Barking 13]

Based on what?

I'm telling you, I think you guys are going to be singing a much different tune in a couple of years.

I'm with you..

[RBritt]

Malik Newman will cure all this shit!

[MarketingBully01]

He may end up being a good coach but by the time we figure it out he probably will be fired because he has not gotten results. He is basically learning everything on the fly on top of a tough rebuilding job. There are some places an assistant coach hire is a good thing however with as much rebuilding needed for this job we needed a proven head coach. I may eat my words but I just don't think Coach Ray was the right hire at the right time. I think Stricklin got this one wrong.

[chef dixon]

The solution to everything for MSU fans. Fire the coach.