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    NCAA tourney

    Is falling in love with the 3-point shot hurting the quality of college basketball? You saw us jack 3s all year and another NCAA tourney 1-point game is determined by the losing team (Michigan) shooting a 3. That's bad basketball IMO

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    Michigan out=I'm out. Dude should've drove for the basket instead of popping off that three. But hey MS7 on the brighter side braves win in the bot of the 9th. Adam Walker looks like a good pickup,

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    Too many timeouts and they last too long. No flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Michigan out=I'm out. Dude should've drove for the basket instead of popping off that three. But hey MS7 on the brighter side braves win in the bot of the 9th. Adam Walker looks like a good pickup,
    I was watching that too... PIP had that, both tourney games, and OM-Kentucky. Heck of pitching performance by braves tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Too many timeouts and they last too long. No flow.
    I agree

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    That Xavier-Zona game was fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Too many timeouts and they last too long. No flow.
    Exactly!

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    my idea of a perfect team make up is this...

    A 3 pt automatic if open like Blair S as a guard.
    An all around scoring guard like Vivians inside, outs, layups,
    A PG who manages the game well, passes dribbles well, hits the 3, layups etc corner foul line jump shots.

    The most important
    Center or Forward think Candace Parker or Rebecca Lobo scoring machine inside who works well with the other post if double teamed or can make the down low pass to the other post, where both posts are in sync
    They work together
    The other post need be consistent with the under the rim shot and a great defender and rebounder . Both need to hit the corner foul line jump shot

    If this shows up its hard to beat
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    Our men don't even have an automatic 3 pt shooter
    Have no posts working together
    And so on

    I call our men's basketball - disarray

    It's not organized
    Last edited by I_Spy; 03-24-2017 at 12:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is falling in love with the 3-point shot hurting the quality of college basketball? You saw us jack 3s all year and another NCAA tourney 1-point game is determined by the losing team (Michigan) shooting a 3. That's bad basketball IMO
    It has changed the game for sure as people have figured out how to properly value it. But it's hard to say whether it's for the better, neutral, or worse, when the game is screwed up for so many other reasons. It seems like it would help create a lot of ball movement and inside out basketball, which should be good. But the foul system is so screwed up you end up with a lot of driving to get bailed out by the referee and/or just passing the ball around lazily before chunking a 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is falling in love with the 3-point shot hurting the quality of college basketball? You saw us jack 3s all year and another NCAA tourney 1-point game is determined by the losing team (Michigan) shooting a 3. That's bad basketball IMO
    It's not bad basketball. It's just the direction basketball has been going in. People realized that long two pointers are stupid when you can take a step back and get 33% more value for your shot.

    I agree in that instance it was probably not the wisest shot. But he still took an open look...so it wasn't all bad.

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    If you can be a low percentage of 3's on certain days...then you are designing a record of like 8-8. You win if you hit, if not you lose.

    Most call this average, I call it subpar. So a process of organization is needed to win the lost 8 games. Or a different strategy that you begin with a plan perhaps...then if you find you are having a high 3 percentage day. Problem solved.

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    Always more value to an easy 2 than a team load of missed 3's and we have no rebounders in position so no put backs etc

    Weatherspoon may miss one, next possession herard may try one, carter then misses one and people running lay ups back on us

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Is falling in love with the 3-point shot hurting the quality of college basketball? You saw us jack 3s all year and another NCAA tourney 1-point game is determined by the losing team (Michigan) shooting a 3. That's bad basketball IMO
    It has happened over and over...and over...and over again in the tournament this year. Multiple teams down 1 just waiting until the end of the clock and jacking up a 3. Michigan inbounded it with 9 seconds left on the other half of the court, and the guy didn't even move for at least 2 seconds. And then you had West Virginia, where one guy wasted the last 20 seconds of the game just standing around wasting time, then couldn't even get a shot off. Awful. And that would have been their 3rd 3 of that possession that started with 37 seconds left, when they could have just taken an easy 2 with plenty of time to cut it down further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    That Xavier-Zona game was fun.
    Even that one had a contested 3 while down 2 with time left to get something better.

    Teams completely and utterly suck at offense late in games, and it's primarily because of kids trying to be the hero. And coaches allow it. It makes it really hard to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Spy View Post
    Our men don't even have an automatic 3 pt shooter
    Have no posts working together
    And so on

    I call our men's basketball - disarray

    It's not organized
    Carter will be that automatic 3-point shooter. And our posts are really young, and we've got reinforcements coming next year.

    Give it time. Be patient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time View Post
    It's not bad basketball. It's just the direction basketball has been going in. People realized that long two pointers are stupid when you can take a step back and get 33% more value for your shot.

    I agree in that instance it was probably not the wisest shot. But he still took an open look...so it wasn't all bad.
    It is bad basketball. The extra value on the 3 does not make up for the decreased percentage when you're down 1 on the last possession. You just need the best look you can get, no matter where it is on the court. Instead, kids just wait and then jack up 3's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Carter will be that automatic 3-point shooter. And our posts are really young, and we've got reinforcements coming next year.

    Give it time. Be patient.
    Blair S was automatic as a freshman, look back at stats
    Automatic just is what it is ...that type player

    I do believe carter will be that (he has the prettiest shot) if he gets the right pass and set up

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    Basketball is about spots, just like Blair from sideline, get to your most productive spot

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    That Blair continually hits a sideline 3 tells me there is some DESIGN to it. And even as freshman...

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