Reply With QuoteInvestigative journalism at its finest. Certainly won't be found in any major publications around here.
They're going to get hammered. Death Penalty. Show Causes for everyone!
Finally. They are seriously 17ed
Investigative journalism at its finest. Certainly won't be found in any major publications around here.
They're going to get hammered. Death Penalty. Show Causes for everyone!
They are literally going to burn oxford to the ground just to try to win a few football games. I am so thankful that as a young boy in sturgis I fell in love with the bulldogs and never had a ounce of desire to be near oxford. It is sad that these prideful, snobby, and ignorant black bears have done all this just to win a sugar bowl.
lil sturgis? I had completely forgotten about that.Originally Posted by BigEasyDawg
Not to sure about "GAY" -- mom knew what had happened with other recruits and tsun........
Definitely looked like some of the stuff I posted on Rivals a few years ago is in there, though I'm sure there were a number of people saying the same things.
In particular, I had posted some stuff long ago about Freeze's earlier connection to UNM, before he got the HC job. Some of that article sounded almost exactly like a couple posts I made.
Mentioning Powe reminded me of what a resident of Waynesboro said to me about him, "Jarrel is to dumb to hang of the back of a garbage truck".
That's my biggest complaint. This isn't investigative journalism. It's just regurgitating public knowledge. The article doesn't make any speculations until the very end about what kind of financial aid Powe may have received and what Freeze may know about it. The rest of it anyone could have written without making a phone call or leaving the house. Why hasn't someone local or even national done this?
From a Rivals post in May 2016:
Though I admittedly don't keep close tabs on UNC, it is my understanding that UNC is still being investigated, and the case/punishments are not complete. I think people are jumping-the-shark on UNC right now.
What I have known for quite some time about Ole Miss, and what is finally becoming common knowledge, is that Ole Miss set up a massive academic fraud program that's main purpose was to get highly-sought-after, but academically ineligible recruits qualified to play at OM.
Through David Saunders, they set up a relationship with an ACT tester in Waynesboro, MS, and instructed kids they sent there to leave any questions they didn't know blank, so they could be filled in for them by the tester.
I've also heard in some cases, they arranged for other kids to pose as those players and take the exam for them. Some Ole Miss players traveled over 2 or 3 hours each way to this testing facility, when they could have taken the exam within 30 minutes of their own home. Why?
I think both UNC and Ole Miss should get hammered. Not sure what's going to happen with OM, but I do know they have successfully manipulated these kind of things in the past. But this time, they went out-of-state and stole kids from powerful programs. Since the Tunsil stuff hit-the-fan, they are now having to deal with more than just the Ole Miss controlled Clarion Ledger newspaper.
They can no longer count on a media cover-up for them. It will be interesting to see how the NCAA responds. Common sense would lead one to think the NCAA would be annoyed as hell with the ridiculously small penalties Ole Miss is proposing.
Now let's take a look at the David Saunders'Hugh Freeze affiliation. We already have established beyond doubt that Saunders set up the academic fraud program through a relationship he cultivated with Waynesboro, MS ACT exam administrator Ginny Crager.
If you look at Saunders bio, you'll find his first job in Mississippi was at Ole Miss, as the, "Assistant to the Athletics Director for Recruiting and Coordinator of High School and Community College Relations (1998-2002). In fact, Saunders only other jobs in Mississippi were a brief stint at Millsaps College (2003-2005), and 2 more times at Ole Miss (2006 & 2010).
Funny, but prior to his 5-year initial stint at Ole Miss, Saunders worked at 5 different schools the previous 8 years. I think we can all make an educated guess when and where Saunders made his Mississippi ACT connection, and set up the academic fraud program.
So, Saunders at Ole Miss from '98 - '02, then Millsaps from '03-'05 (where they must have learned his, "special talent" wasn't actual coaching), then his next job is back at Ole Miss for a year in 2006. Guess who was Ole Miss Recruiting Coordinator from 2006 - 2007?
Why, none other than Hugh Freeze. While Saunders was ostensibly hired to be, "LB Coach", I think most can figure out why he was really hired for 1 year. Ole Miss (and Hugh Freeze) knew from his previous 5-year stint what his, "specialty" was.
Don't think Hugh Freeze was connected enough as RC to know about Saunders and the academic fraud? Well, he was connected enough to assume the interim HC position when Orgeron was fired in 2008, and was connected enough to be one of the two finalist for OC when Houston Nutt took over.
What are the odds Freeze is truly innocent and unaware of the cheating program Saunders set up and ran at Ole Miss? What are the odds Freeze did not know about Saunders and his program when Freeze was the RC the year Saunders was hired back the 2nd time?
Does anyone really believe Hugh Freeze never questioned why some of his recruits were cancelling their ACT exams near their home town so they could instead take it at a specific place 3 hours or more drive away?
David Saunders, he of the 8-year show cause, has been employed more than once by only one school.....Ole Miss, and they hired him on 3 separate occasions, including again in 2010. Saunders got busted at ULL, in large part because of the academic fraud he had going with the Mississippi ACT testing place...a program he obviously set up while at Ole Miss. Where had Saunders been employed prior to ULL? 3 of his previous 4 jobs had been at Ole Miss.
There has for decades been a culture at Ole Miss that encourages a, "win at all costs" mentality that breeds institutional cheating. Some of their most prominent and politically-connected boosters have actually gone to prison for bribery and fraud, yet remain among the boosters with the most influence and access to the Athletic Department.
Do I think Ole Miss is going to get hammered? If there is any justice and/or if the NCAA has any balls left at all, they will be. I think they'll get whacked pretty good this time, but worse when the 2nd investigation that is now ongoing runs it's course.
8 blacklistedbully, May 31, 2016 Last edited: May 31, 2016
You do realize the NCAA is talking to current players that were recruited by Ole Miss, and the investigation is still ongoing, right?
You do realize they are still digging into the academic fraud program y'all were running through Waynesboro, right?
You do realize Hugh Freeze was Recruiting Coordinator at Ole Miss during Saunders 2nd stint at Ole Miss, right?
You do realize that establishes a direct link to your current HC, Hugh Freeze, right?
37 blacklistedbully, Apr 26, 2016
2008-2011 Chris Vaughn - Fired due to, "damning facts" turned up about his tactics at Ole Miss
2006-2007 Hugh Freeze
1998-2002 David Saunders - 8-year show cause due to tactics he took from OM to ULL
But...but...Freeze is clean. All the cheating occurred before he was there! - Ole Miss fans
ETA, not exactly past 3, but past 2 and DS on staff at OM in 2006.
1 blacklistedbully, Feb 11, 2016
I wish during a press conference (an actual press conference, not that crap they put together for the NOA) someone would pose the question to Bjork as to why he fired the WBB coach who unknowingly allowed things to go on, but he is adamant about keeping Hugh.
I think the reason why is precisely what the last quote of the article said - I just have been wondering that same question for a while and would love to see Bjork have to come up with some BS response on the spot.
From a John Talty interview a year ago about Hugh Freeze:
At one point, the guy interviewing Talty said, "Some coaches will do anything to win". Talty responded, "Some people believe the ends justify the means. I know he believes that!".
Archie didn't hire that WBB coach.
After reading that I am convince that Leo was a set up to catch Ole Miss. Mullen might have been involved in the set up. That would make it even more cooler.
If it was a sting and Dan was involved, I imagine this was him when it all came together.
I love this nugget buried in the section about Saunders. One of my favorites in this whole charade:
In the Fall of 2008, he was finally allowed to participate, playing in all 12 games. However, this little bombshell hit in April of 2009.
Powe was cited with a noise violation by Oxford police, but raised eyebrows when he told the police, when they asked for him to sign the citation, that he could not read. Some people think it was just a gag to try and outfox the police, but his mother was quoted in legal papers as saying, “Jerrell really is a good child, but he just can’t read.”
The funniest thing to me about the Saunders deal is that Pete Boone knew what would happen if Ole Miss hired Saunders and he tried to prevent it and was overruled. I can't remember the exact timeline but this was all about the time Forward Rebels was making a lot of noise and one of the things they used against Boone was that he didn't want Powe in school.
Exactly, multiple references to "The Network".
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