MSU defense

[Coach007]

2014/15, MSU was ranked #1 in the country and had the 84th ranked defense in the nation. We went 10-3.

2015/16, MSU "improved" in defense to 54th in the nation and went 9-4.

2016/17, We go 6-7 with a defense ranked 110th. We lost 3 games with an average of what, 1.33 points per game. Another loss in double overtime?

Is there a lesson in that?

[RezDog7]

Yep, if our defense was better we would have won more games. Our defense is as soft as a roll of charmin.

[lamont]

2014/15, MSU was ranked #1 in the country and had the 84th ranked defense in the nation. We went 10-3.

2015/16, MSU "improved" in defense to 54th in the nation and went 9-4.

2016/17, We go 6-7 with a defense ranked 110th. We lost 3 games with an average of what, 1.33 points per game. Another loss in double overtime?

Is there a lesson in that?

yes- get better on ****ing defense so we can win more games because our offense is good enough except when we play Bama

[Coach007]

yes- get better on ****ing defense so we can win more games because our offense is good enough except when we play Bama

2013/14 MSU was ranked 18th on defense in the nation. That year, we went 7-6.

[HoopsDawg]

2014/15, MSU was ranked #1 in the country and had the 84th ranked defense in the nation. We went 10-3.

2015/16, MSU "improved" in defense to 54th in the nation and went 9-4.

2016/17, We go 6-7 with a defense ranked 110th. We lost 3 games with an average of what, 1.33 points per game. Another loss in double overtime?

Is there a lesson in that?

Yes, force Arkansas to punt once and force Miami of Ohio to punt twice.

[HoopsDawg]

2013/14 MSU was ranked 18th on defense in the nation. That year, we went 7-8.

15 game schedule, cool.

[dawgday166]

A lot of those yards given up were garbage passing yards when we had big leads. That D could kinda go on cruise control. With exception of OM tho (and KY to some extent and Bama on 1 drive in 2nd half) they really didn't give up a lot when it counted. Was excellent in the red zone too.

The prelude to that team was 2013. 18th in total D and 33rd in scoring. 2014 team was 23rd in scoring D.

I hope we're better next year. A lot of work needs to be done in off-season tho. Plus, I don't believe all these stud juco D guys will integrate as seamlessly as a lot hope they will. In 2 years, maybe by then.

[lamont]

2013/14 MSU was ranked 18th on defense in the nation. That year, we went 7-8.

maybe that was because we had 2 QB's go down to injury and had to start the Egg Bowl with true freshman Damien Williams at QB

[dawgday166]

2013/14 MSU was ranked 18th on defense in the nation. That year, we went 7-8.

Because the offense was lights out **** In defense of offense tho, had a lot of injuries which actually helped some due to Dak and JRob emerging some.

[Coach007]

15 game schedule, cool.

Fixed the typo just for you sunshine.

[lamont]

The prelude to that team was 2013. 18th in total D and 33rd in scoring. 2014 team was 23rd in scoring D.
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This is what it ultimately comes down to

[dawgday166]

Yes it is.

[dawgday166]

I still think both sides of the ball and special teams ... they all need to be addressed. Rankin and Jenkins weren't that good today. Rankin must've had his new center responsibilities on his mind ****

[Coach007]

maybe that was because we had 2 QB's go down to injury and had to start the Egg Bowl with true freshman Damien Williams at QB

Maybe. But that doesn't count for OSU (21-3), Auburn, or LSU (59-26). We gave up 51 points to TAMU... 34 to USC. We had offense. Alcorn 51 points, Troy 62 points.

[dawgday166]

Maybe. But that doesn't count for OSU (21-3), Auburn, or LSU (59-26). We gave up 51 points to TAMU... 34 to USC. We had offense. Alcorn 51 points, Troy 62 points.

Cmon mane. You ain't counting Alcorn and Troy as proving we had offense are you? We scored against OSU - 21, Aub - 20, Bowling Green - 21, KY - only 28, USCe - 16, Bama - 7 (only gave up 20; that's when I knew the D was good), Ark - 17 in Reg; 24 in OT, OM - 10 in Reg; 17 in OT. Those aren't stellar offensive scores especially with the most brilliant offensive mind since Walsh at the helm.

ETA: We scored over 30 only 3 times ... the 3 that you mentioned above. Oh ... and Rice in the bowl game. A lot of us might feel better if we had won today like we did against Rice in 13.

ETA again: The Bama game (our D kept smacking em back even tho our O couldn't get a first down, which doesn't usually happen) and seeing Dak and JRob emerge late in season is why I almost put a long shot bet on us to win NC in 14. I don't feel anywhere close to that now tho.

ETA once more: That is the lowest point total given up to Bama since Dan's been here too.

[TUSK]

15 game schedule, cool.

Doesn't everyone play 15 games these days?*

[dawgday166]

Doesn't everyone play 15 games these days?*

Bastard **** I just now SWYDT. You do like to poke at us don't ya haha. You funny guy.

[Dawgsfanalongtime77]

The defense gave up yards in bunches the entire season. One of the many issues was simply not getting pressure on the qb. Just about every opposing qb this yr was successful. Can't say how many times the middle of the field was wide open and it never changed. You can call it scheme or whatever. I personally like a 4 3 front over a 3 4 but it's not my job

[Commercecomet24]

This is what it ultimately comes down to

This is it. In the end points allowed is the only defensive stat that really counts.

[HoopsDawg]

Doesn't everyone play 15 games these days?*

I hate you.