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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I believe he'll be a better than top 10 sec receiver next year. Some of his lack of production is Fitz still growing into his passing role IMO.
    Fitz's development didn't hurt Ross too much. The bottom line is we better hope that Couch and Todd take big steps next year or we could have some problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Let's also don't forget we have to replace 3 starters on the OL- including our Center
    And we're likely going to move at least one of the two most effective linemen to other positions as well because of poor recruiting.

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    On a scale from 1-10 I think Gray is a 6 on the scale. He's a bit of a tweener IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Let's also don't forget we have to replace 3 starters on the OL- including our Center
    Replaced 2 starters last year- including our LT. Also didn't have an established QB (or RB for that matter).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    On a scale from 1-10 I think Gray is a 6 on the scale. He's a bit of a tweener IMO
    Gray is a really good player who has had to make a lot of adjustments (going from JUCO to D1, QB controversy and losing Dak, playing second fiddle, etc.). Call me crazy, but I expect him to thrive with some stability and experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Fitz's development didn't hurt Ross too much. The bottom line is we better hope that Couch and Todd take big steps next year or we could have some problems.
    It cost him 20 catches and about 200 yards vs. 2015, though he did have more TD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    On a scale from 1-10 I think Gray is a 6 on the scale. He's a bit of a tweener IMO
    On the college level? I think he's an 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    It cost him 20 catches and about 200 yards vs. 2015, though he did have more TD.
    Compare his receptions to Gray's and I think you will understand my point better.
    Last edited by Todd4State; 12-21-2016 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    Let's also don't forget we have to replace 3 starters on the OL- including our Center
    Completely agree here, if our OL doesn't gel and play well we will have more problems than Gray getting his catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And we're likely going to move at least one of the two most effective linemen to other positions as well because of poor recruiting.
    You gotta be bored, it's not even spring practice yet, all the players haven't been tested but yet you are so negative when there shouldn't be any negative talk without knowing what is going on and to see who can or can't play.

    Come on Todd, start thinking, you have so many opinions that just don't stick any longer, no way you or I or anyone knows what can happen for next year. Why carry on the f***ing agenda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    On the college level? I think he's an 8.
    I agree. He has enough speed and quickness to get open. He's strong... go watch him bull himself in the endzone vs Om. His blocking got much better down the stretch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    He was 18th in SEC in receptions- with only 3 Sr's above him. Now a couple of JR's could declare- but Gray won't be a top 10 returning WR in receptions- and there were some really talented Freshmen this past year plus more coming into the league.

    Gray is in no way, shape, or form a Top 10 SEC WR
    Why is # of receptions the key defining stat? If given the same number of yards, I'll actually take fewer receptions rather than more.

    But he will be the go-to guy next year. If he breaks the top 15 in receptions next year, will you call him a top 15 SEC WR? Let me guess - you'll pull another stat to try to show that he wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Fitz's development didn't hurt Ross too much. The bottom line is we better hope that Couch and Todd take big steps next year or we could have some problems.
    I kinda lean toward Fitz looking for Ross more than Gray too. We'll see but I believe he may can stretch the field better than Ross could. He'll need other WRs though to be something of concerns for opposing Ds otherwise they'll be sure to take Gray away as an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Compare his YPC to Gray's and I think you will understand my point better.
    Ross had 5 fewer YPC than Gray. What are you trying to say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I agree. He has enough speed and quickness to get open. He's strong... go watch him bull himself in the endzone vs Om. His blocking got much better down the stretch
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    I kinda lean toward Fitz looking for Ross more than Gray too. We'll see but I believe he may can stretch the field better than Ross could. He'll need other WRs though to be something of concerns for opposing Ds otherwise they'll be sure to take Gray away as an option.
    Fitz absolutely looked on to Ross too much this season. Fitz needs to really work on progressions this offseason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    You gotta be bored, it's not even spring practice yet, all the players haven't been tested but yet you are so negative when there shouldn't be any negative talk without knowing what is going on and to see who can or can't play.

    Come on Todd, start thinking, you have so many opinions that just don't stick any longer, no way you or I or anyone knows what can happen for next year. Why carry on the f***ing agenda?
    We are already talking about moving o-linemen around. That is a fact. I don't know what will happen next year but it's a concern at this point. Maybe it will turn out fine but Hevesy has put us in a less than ideal position with his laziness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smootness View Post
    Ross had 5 fewer YPC than Gray. What are you trying to say?
    My mistake. I corrected it above. He had almost twice as many receptions as Gray. If Gray's numbers were affected that much by Fitz's development then Ross's would have been a lot closer to Gray assuming that Gray is an elite WR since we all know Ross is an elite receiver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    We are already talking about moving o-linemen around. That is a fact. I don't know what will happen next year but it's a concern at this point. Maybe it will turn out fine but Hevesy has put us in a less than ideal position with his laziness.

    If you want sunshine football posts go post on Genespage.
    Hev had one of the top half olines in the sec this year. When we've been a run heavy offense, our oline has been pretty good. I see us as a run heavy offense next season

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My mistake. I corrected it above. He had almost twice as many receptions as Gray. If Gray's numbers were affected that much by Fitz's development then Ross's would have been a lot closer to Gray assuming that Gray is an elite WR since we all know Ross is an elite receiver.
    Huh? First, who said Gray was elite? You don't have to be elite to be a top 15 SEC WR.

    Second, why would you compare Ross to Gray? You said Fitz's development didn't hurt Ross, but it did when you compare Ross to himself. Thus, Gray gaining experience, getting better, taking on the #1 role, and having a better Fitz should probably lead to enough receptions to get him inside the top 15 and likely even the top 10.

    No?

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