An NCAA Investigation unlike any other

[blacklistedbully]

I'd have to say, yeah. ***

Never gets old.

[blacklistedbully]

This is a good thing. **

Also never gets old.

[blacklistedbully]

This is also what happens when the administration lies to the fan base.

99% of the fan base doesn't realize how bad things are. So why would they quit?

They would've been much better off if the administration told them, "things are bad. Cut it the 17 out"

Instead, they think it's business as usual.

Good post.

[archdog]

Something I've thought about. What if the sheavior wasn't really being redshirted, but he was serving a suspension similar to the one tunsil served? Has anyone else considered this? Would make a lot of sense as to why he never saw the field.

He didn't play because Kelly was better. Soon as Kelly was out, he came in. Too much of a coincidence if it was a suspension. Now he may have been suspended, but Freeze needing a QB, decided to lift it. Who knows.

[lamont]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

[trob115]

mistakes were made.

[starkvegasdawg]

mistakes were made.

I fear for their soul.

[gtowndawg]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.

[MadDawg]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.

[EngDawg]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Bjork and Freeze walk into the empty room.

[Sacrifice]

I love it! Worldcom type shit.
Just keeps snowballing on them

[Political Hack]

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.

It's still concluding too. The investigation is conducted separately from the punishment, which means the committee responsible for levying the punishment hasn't had a chance to make decisions yet. For example, hypothetically, if the NCAA is in Oxford right now interviewing ole miss staff this week and expect it to continue into next week, they might catch them in a lie or have them come clean about past lies. A lot can still happen at this point, but whatever happens it's not good for the rebels. The largest NCAA investigation ever has potentially uncovered the most aggregious violations in the history of collegiate sports spanning across 3 sports and four coaching staffs.

[Coursesuper]

I know for sure that their plan was to sell out on the 16 class and try to ride out the sanctions they knew they has coming. They were convinced they had enough talent to ride out whatever the NCAA handed out, they were so arrogant that they continued to operate as usual.

[DancingRabbit]

Yeah he was a ass hole dick head in those two movies. In fact has he ever played a roll where he wasn't at lest a dick head?

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).

[Coursesuper]

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).

I played golf with that guy at a Sherwood CC in Thousand Oaks Ca, they were supposed to have a member outing with Bel-Aire that morning but it " rained". We went out in the sprinkle and played and he went with us, great cigars, terrible player.

[Liverpooldawg]

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.

Yep, and what the other guy above said too.

[Dawgowar]

Today , the NCAA COI dropped the hammer on Cal State University Northridge for Academic Misconduct, not fraud - the AD official involved with illegal help to 10 students got 5 yrs show cause....this was the line in the findings that made me think about UNM and their boosters' standing with the NCAA investigators about now:

"The former director of basketball operations denied completing coursework or providing impermissible academic benefits to student-athletes; however, the panel did not find him to be credible."

After Tunsil and everything we believe to have been unearthed since then, the lies, the continued operation of the network - just how credible is the Bear Administration, Boosters, AD, Coaches, etc in the eyes of the NCAA?

[Negative Waves]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

[Political Hack]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.

[ShotgunDawg]

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.

This

The NCAA would also have issues with it's level chart & punishments. Giving Ole Miss 24 over 2 would set a terrible precedent.
With that punishment, could you get docked 12 over 2 for 4 level ones? If so, that makes cheating worth it