The playoff..............

[Liverpooldawg]

Alabama, Clemson, Washington, Penn State. Ohio State didn't win it's division nor its conference, neither did Michigan. If not Penn State then Oklahoma.

[msstate7]

You're nuts...

Bama vs Washington
Ohio state vs Clemson

[Bass Chaser]

I guess I'm nuts too because I don't think Ohio State should be in either.

[Liverpooldawg]

If you can't even win your division and MAKE your conference championship game you in NO way deserve making the NATIONAL playoff. If Ohio State gets in the system needs to be scrapped. I could see taking a runner up, but Ohio State didn't even play for the BIG title.

[maroonmania]

The only way Ohio St. shouldn't be in is if being a conference champion is a prerequisite to being in the CFP. Right now its not, so they should be in by resume.

[msstate7]

I suggest you guys get your complaints written up... Ohio state will be in

[Coursesuper]

That Penn State is allowed to even compete in a football game is an absolute travesty. The football program should have been shut down as soon as all the facts were made public about what happened there and was tacitly condoned by that school.

[Liverpooldawg]

I suggest you guys get your complaints written up... Ohio state will be in

You are right of course, and it make a the whole thing a farce.

[Liverpooldawg]

That Penn State is allowed to even compete in a football game is an absolute travesty. The football program should have been shut down as soon as all the facts were made public about what happened there and was tacitly condoned by that school.

THIS is right for sure. That being said as it is they should be in over Ohio State.

[msstate7]

Ohio state lost by 3 at penn state and beat 3 top 10 teams (Oklahoma, Wisconsin, and Michigan)

Penn state did beat Ohio state and Wisconsin, but just to Pitt and 49-10 to Michigan.

[Cooterpoot]

Going to find out if the eye test or championships and head to head carry more weight.

[preachermatt83]

If you can't even win your division and MAKE your conference championship game you in NO way deserve making the NATIONAL playoff. If Ohio State gets in the system needs to be scrapped. I could see taking a runner up, but Ohio State didn't even play for the BIG title.

This all day.. Not to mention that PSU won the head to head.

[Quaoarsking]

I suggest you guys get your complaints written up... Ohio state will be in

In 2014, TCU was thought by most to be better than Baylor and was generally ranked ahead of them ... until mysteriously in the final rankings Baylor jumped ahead of them. Now because Baylor was 5 and TCU was 6 no one really paid attention to it, but that would have been the big story if they'd been 4 and 5.

The two takeaways are that only the final rankings matter and don't correlate to other rankings, and that head-to-head really matters, at least in the end.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is why we need an 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs & 3 at large

Under this system though, if you an MSU fan, you should be rooting for Penn State to get in due to the precedent it sets.

I can see it now, MSU loses a non-conference game, beats Bama, MSU goes 10-2, Bama goes 11-1, MSU wins the SEC championship, & Bama goes to the playoff while MSU stays at home. See how that works?

I think Penn State should be in.

[msstate7]

In 2014, TCU was thought by most to be better than Baylor and was generally ranked ahead of them ... until mysteriously in the final rankings Baylor jumped ahead of them. Now because Baylor was 5 and TCU was 6 no one really paid attention to it, but that would have been the big story if they'd been 4 and 5.

The two takeaways are that only the final rankings matter and don't correlate to other rankings, and that head-to-head really matters, at least in the end.

The question is which 2 of penn state, Clemson, or Washington get in imo... Ohio state is safe

[bluelightstar]

This is why we need an 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs & 3 at large

Under this system though, if you an MSU fan, you should be rooting for Penn State to get in due to the precedent it sets.

I can see it now, MSU loses a non-conference game, beats Bama, MSU goes 10-2, Bama goes 11-1, MSU wins the SEC championship, & Bama goes to the playoff while MSU stays at home.

I think Penn State should be in.

Hell, I'd think that's probably right if we've got 2 losses -- for comparison to PSU, let's say one to an 8-win Arizona team and the other by 40 to Auburn -- and our win against Bama was off a fluke special teams play after getting outgained by 200 at home.

[It_Could_Happen]

Remember two years ago when TCU/Baylor got left out and the committee said conference champs/head to head matters? Penn State should be in. Stand by the precedent you set.

[Quaoarsking]

Ideally they would set up some objective system where your record gets you into the playoffs, just like every professional sport.

Imagine cutting down to 4 power conferences and the "playoff" was Big 10 vs. Pac 16 in the Rose Bowl, SEC vs. ACC in whatever bowl, and winners play for the title. No Committee, no debates.

[msstate7]

The committee set themselves up for this controversy by releasing a top 4 every week. Just release 1 playoff poll after championship Saturday and be done with it

[ScoobaDawg]

This is why we need an 8 team playoff. 5 conference champs & 3 at large

Under this system though, if you an MSU fan, you should be rooting for Penn State to get in due to the precedent it sets.

I can see it now, MSU loses a non-conference game, beats Bama, MSU goes 10-2, Bama goes 11-1, MSU wins the SEC championship, & Bama goes to the playoff while MSU stays at home. See how that works?

I think Penn State should be in.

but thats not the system we have.

Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, Washington. That's what it should be. and will likely be .