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    Reading between the lines....

    I listened to Dawg Talk on the radio last night. I was encouraged to hear Mullen unprovoked saying things like "yea, next year we'll be playing this one on Thanksgiving, which will be special. Will mean me and my staff will get zero sleep that week, but it will be special to play on Thanksgiving."

    He made several responses talking about the youth on the team and how it is frustrating THIS year, but will be worth it next year and the next when all these guys return and HE will be coaching a veteran team with a veteran QB. Kept inferring that HE would be coaching them the next few years.

    Might not mean anything at all, and I still wish the SOB wouldn't sleep this week after what's happened the last few years...but I was encouraged to hear Mullen making several references to next year and the next few years, as if he's going to be here and happy to be here.

    Just thought I'd share. Disregard if you want Mullen gone, I guess

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    Maybe seeing what we've been able to do on offense has him excited about the future possibilities...OR because we suck so bad he has resigned himself to the fact that he'll have no choice but to be back.

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    Appreciate the info! To me it is good news. I hope he makes appropriate changes in the offseason and finishes recruiting hard. He's got so many good qualities and hopefully he's evaluated where we need to fix some things and get it done. Now let's start by getting the Egg back!

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    I hope he's made up his mind that his best option is staying here and building a winner. That would put a lot of people's mind at ease.
    Thanks for the post Cdawg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    I listened to Dawg Talk on the radio last night. I was encouraged to hear Mullen unprovoked saying things like "yea, next year we'll be playing this one on Thanksgiving, which will be special. Will mean me and my staff will get zero sleep that week, but it will be special to play on Thanksgiving."

    He made several responses talking about the youth on the team and how it is frustrating THIS year, but will be worth it next year and the next when all these guys return and HE will be coaching a veteran team with a veteran QB. Kept inferring that HE would be coaching them the next few years.

    Might not mean anything at all, and I still wish the SOB wouldn't sleep this week after what's happened the last few years...but I was encouraged to hear Mullen making several references to next year and the next few years, as if he's going to be here and happy to be here.

    Just thought I'd share. Disregard if you want Mullen gone, I guess
    We'll know in a couple of weeks if this was him being honest or just being coy. If he is truly wanting to stay here then the first time he his tied to a coaching opening he needs to come out and say he is flattered his name came up but he is happy coaching and MSU and is not a candidate. He can't help what sports reporters write and who ties him to what opening. He can control the message after that happens, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    I listened to Dawg Talk on the radio last night. I was encouraged to hear Mullen unprovoked saying things like "yea, next year we'll be playing this one on Thanksgiving, which will be special. Will mean me and my staff will get zero sleep that week, but it will be special to play on Thanksgiving."

    He made several responses talking about the youth on the team and how it is frustrating THIS year, but will be worth it next year and the next when all these guys return and HE will be coaching a veteran team with a veteran QB. Kept inferring that HE would be coaching them the next few years.

    Might not mean anything at all, and I still wish the SOB wouldn't sleep this week after what's happened the last few years...but I was encouraged to hear Mullen making several references to next year and the next few years, as if he's going to be here and happy to be here.

    Just thought I'd share. Disregard if you want Mullen gone, I guess
    Good post C Dav

    It's good to hear Mullen say that. As I've been saying, this year has sucked but it hasn't been a waste. Replacing Dak and finding young playmakers was critical for the future and we've done that. That along with what should be a solid recruiting class coming in and your rival going on probation leads me to believe we are actually headed in the right direction. We've just got to get back to physical football on both sides.

    Glad to hear that Mullen sounds excited about the future.
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    Everything has been quiet the last couple weeks...it's also hard to sell yourself at 4-7

    Hell, right now there is more chatter that OM is about to overhaul its staff

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    Not to high jack the thread but is it true that Freeze could continue to coach at OM with a show cause?

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    I think its good news, especially if we get the "fire in the belly" Mullen we know is in there. He's come out on a few occasions during games this year, but this off season really needs to be a "shot in the arm" for the program. Get the fans/alumni excited about next year (which is already occurring, by his Dawg Talk). We have to go wholesale on changes, Hev, Sirmon, Knox, just to name a few that need to be shown the door.

    Having Cohen as AD in this case, makes it easier. Cohen wants to win, and I'm sure he's seen the issues, so he'd be behind it. (Hell, he may even fire some of them himself...that intense bastard...).

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    Not to high jack the thread but is it true that Freeze could continue to coach at OM with a show cause?
    No he can't

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    Not to high jack the thread but is it true that Freeze could continue to coach at OM with a show cause?
    As I understand the rules, it is indeed possible. Mississippi would have to go before the NCAA and make the case for him staying.
    Freeze would be radioactive for any other school, though Auburn did hire Bruce Pearl.
    I think it would be appropriate for Freeze to continue to coach at the dumpster fire he created, after the NCAA get's through with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msbulldog View Post
    As I understand the rules, it is indeed possible. Mississippi would have to go before the NCAA and make the case for him staying.
    Freeze would be radioactive for any other school, though Auburn did hire Bruce Pearl.
    I think it would be appropriate for Freeze to continue to coach at the dumpster fire he created, after the NCAA get's through with them.
    Not sure what case you could make with a 6-6 coach that doesn't develop NFL talent. There's really not much evidence that he's a good coach. I think the NCAA would see that the only reason for keeping him would be to continue to cheat
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    First time that I can remember him not being mentioned as HC somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random Poster View Post
    No he can't
    Yes, I think that they can BUT schools have usually fired the coaches using language in the contracts that prohibit 'bringing the NCAA down' on the school.

    The penalty was instituted to keep coaches from getting a school on probation and then skipping off to another school .. ala Calipari.

    I also think that schools can actually hire a coach with a 'show cause' .. but the stigma has been too much to overcome .. ala Briles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bama_Dawg View Post
    We have to go wholesale on changes, Hev, Sirmon, Knox, just to name a few that need to be shown the door.
    The problem with wholesale changes is that it virtually assures that we will stink next year. You have to remember that players are human beings & not robots & that change is difficult & bumpy. My guess is you'll see a couple of changes & that's about it.

    One thing to remember is that you don't know these people &, as fans, we can guess what's wrong but we really have no clue. Honestly, I realize the defense is the worst in MSU history, but we have to remember that Mullen hired Sirmon because he believes he possesses the ingredients & knowledge to be an elite DC. If Mullen still believes that & believes that this year's defense was a result of other, uncontrollable factors, then I hope he keeps Sirmon. You can't just fire people to fire people or because your upset, you fire people when you truly believe that you have better options & that the program is better off without that person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Not sure what case you could make with a 6-6 coach that doesn't develop NFL talent. There's really not much evidence that he's a good coach. I think the NCAA would see that the only reason for keeping him would be to continue to cheat
    Gun, Mississippi could go to the NCAA and make a good case that they can't hire a coach to come into this soon to be or already is dumpster fire.

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    Also don't forget that with a show cause he will also be suspended X number of games as well. That is also big reason that coaches don't get hired at other schools during the show cause period. Even if they "show cause" why they should be allowed to hire that coach, the suspension will still be in effect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    First time that I can remember him not being mentioned as HC somewhere.
    I have already seen one... Arizona
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    The hysteria over Mullen shopping himself all over the country is one of the most bizarre fan-created things I've seen. His name is mentioned often for good open jobs because many around the country see a young, 'up-and-coming' coach having success at a place like State and think, 'He's a good candidate to want to move up,' so they throw his name around for a bunch of openings. Then our fans freak out, assume he's trying to leave, get pissed at him, and start to see things like him not screaming at everyone on the sideline as further proof that he's gotten complacent and doesn't care about State's success anymore.

    It's stupid. The guy is more invested in State being successful than any of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiderman View Post
    I have already seen one... Arizona
    Don't believe everything you have heard. I can tell you what I was told about his wife talking to Mullen but maybe later when things settle down. There is more going on than the so call "in the rumor mill". And yes I have two folks in the know.

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