Is it all Sirmon's fault that the defense has been mostly terrible this year

[ShotgunDawg]

Mullen needs to find a job somewhere else. Please someone else hire him.

Silly we scored 42 tonight. Don't let one bad season and an awful defense make you forget that this year's offense is one of the best in school history.

Have you seen LSU and Florida play this year? Our offensive system and QB development is elite compared to theirs.

You don't fire coaches that do that unless they show a sustained inability to win football games. One year is not a trend.

[PassInterference]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

I'm with ya. When I look around and see the struggle Texas, Florida, Michigan, and Notre Dame have had finding the right HC, I've gotta second think wanting Mullen gone.

Instead, I wish Mullen would make a few staff changes and try a new approach with the defense. Go hire a up and comer DC with the sales pitch that you're gonna let him run it.

[ShotgunDawg]

I'm convinced Mullen has no idea what he's looking at on defense. The last good defense Mullen has had was 2010 and it's been downhill since then. I'm not sure he values it

[GTHOM]

Silly we scored 42 tonight. Don't let one bad season and an awful defense make you forget that this year's offense is one of the best in school history.

Have you seen LSU and Florida play this year? Our offensive system and QB development is elite compared to theirs.

You don't fire coaches that do that unless they show a sustained inability to win football games. One year is not a trend.

Slow down jack. There is nothing elite about this offense. The better defenses we have seen have beaten us soundly, Bama and Auburn made us look like JV players and LSU shut us down as well. However you can see it starting to come together and Fitz is going to be one of the best we have ever had

[BayouDawg]

I'm convinced Mullen has no idea what he's looking at on defense. The last good defense Mullen has had was 2010 and it's been downhill since then. I'm not sure he values it

What baffles me is how horrendous our defensive backs have gotten over the last few years. Mississippi high schools have always been know to produce servicable defensive backs. You almost have to try to suck this bad. We've been regressing steadily since 2013. I just don't get it.

[NCDawg]

Auburn beat Arkansas 56-3. I just don't think we have the talent on defense. We look slow and our DB's are a disaster. I do think Simmons and Spencer show promise. Lewis has played pretty good in the past, but I didn't see him doing much tonight.

[GTHOM]

What baffles me is how horrendous our defensive backs have gotten over the last few years. Mississippi high schools have always been know to produce servicable defensive backs. You almost have to try to suck this bad. We've been regressing steadily since 2013. I just don't get it.

Its a scheme problem. We allow free releases and play man from with too much depth. Its impossible unless your Deion Sanders

[GTHOM]

Auburn beat Arkansas 56-3. I just don't think we have the talent on defense. We look slow and our DB's are a disaster. I do think Simmons and Spencer show promise. Lewis has played pretty good in the past, but I didn't see him doing much tonight.

Their first TD of the game LL didnt fit right. He fit up with his outside shoulder instead of inside and the guy housed it. He has to get over the top of that OL and turn it back into Richie. Our secondary didnt help him by making a tackle either. Neither did our DL by getting manhandled and letting an OL get right up on LL to begin with. It was all around shitshow. Its no single players fault

[Todd4State]

I get what you're saying, but at the same time if Dan does want out I think it's best for all parties if he is hired away.

Exactly. Like I said with Cohen- if he doesn't want to be our baseball coach then move on to AD or whatever. Same applies to Dan. The problem is I doubt he will find a job that pays what ours does but I bet if he takes a paycut everyone involved will be happy.

[Todd4State]

Its a scheme problem. We allow free releases and play man from with too much depth. Its impossible unless your Deion Sanders

Nailed it.

[Todd4State]

I'm convinced Mullen has no idea what he's looking at on defense. The last good defense Mullen has had was 2010 and it's been downhill since then. I'm not sure he values it

He values it but he can't keep his hands off of it. We need someone like Charlie Strong or Tom Allen and then Dan needs to stay the hell away from them.

[Dawgsfanalongtime77]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

Been a fan 30 yrs. I remember bad offenses for sure but this is the worst defense I've seen. People say it was a bad hire for D.C. . Well Mullen hired him so in no way do I fully blame sirmon. We can't keep a D.C. No time because of how Mullen is and has handled it every yr. He said just tonight that he is involved in all plans with the defense. There is the glaring problem right there. Fitz looks great but everything else is as bad as it's been under Mullen

[Dawgfan77]

aTm may be the worst team in the sec right now.

Yeah I think that team is us

[msstate7]

Yeah I think that team is us

You must have missed us beating them. In fact, we pretty much dominated them

[Dawgfan77]

You must have missed us beating them. In fact, we pretty much dominated them

You must have missed us giving up over 50 the last two weeks and the Samford game. Did you see us lose to south Alabama or U.K.? Its between us and Miss for the worst team in the sec. hell boom got the cocks to a bowl

[Hypnodawg]

I've been watching msu football since 95. This is by far the worst defense I have seen is field. As a guy that likes watching defense, this had become unbearable. I've no idea how he can look himself in the mirror with that shitshow.

[Percho]

Been a fan 30 yrs. I remember bad offenses for sure but this is the worst defense I've seen. People say it was a bad hire for D.C. . Well Mullen hired him so in no way do I fully blame sirmon. We can't keep a D.C. No time because of how Mullen is and has handled it every yr. He said just tonight that he is involved in all plans with the defense. There is the glaring problem right there. Fitz looks great but everything else is as bad as it's been under Mullen

A Williams looks very good.

[Bucky Dog]

I'm no coach and I certainly can't talk about schemes or play calling on Sirmon's part, and if Dan is holding him back on the aggressiveness with blitzes and press coverage, then that needs to change!

What I do know and see, is we have a strength and conditioning issue, and it is most notable on defense. We are slow to the ball, not strong enough to get penetration or shed blocks effectively, and we look like we have guys standing around waiting for something to happen, instead of making something happen. I've never seen a secondary have their backs to the ball as it goes by their head so often as I have this year either.

To be fair, the kids have their third DC in 3 years and maybe the scheme is difficult and they have had trouble catching on. And maybe Sirmon doesn't have enough of his type players on the field for his scheme. But either way, you either recruit the kids for the scheme you want to run, or coach to the players you have. It would not be a good move to fire Sirmon after one year. Mullen won't do that, as he will show trust in him to turn it around next year.

It takes ZERO talent to do the following: work ethic, effort, body language, energy, attitude, passion, putting in extra work, being coach able and being fully prepared. I'm not sure I see our team meeting all of these requirements, and since we are a team of 3 stars, with some higher mixed in, our players better make damn sure they are doing all of this better than anyone else!

[Ari Gold]

Dan won't get out of Dan's way with the defense. Prob won't matter who he hires as long as he is here..
Sirmon wasn't ready and the team hasn't bought in to his scheme .
We have some guys on defense.. Actually have higher rated players on D than we don on O. But we need more impact players on the D
We have to Change the culture and clean house with a lot of coaches and players..
And outside of coaches lets part ways with the S&C coach while we are at it.

[Bothrops]

We may have all new coaches next year, except for two.