Is it all Sirmon's fault that the defense has been mostly terrible this year

[Irondawg]

I'm trying to figure it out. Our secondary minus Redmond was garbage for the past few years and we overhauled every coach there and we still stink.

Recent fan favorite Richie Brown who we all thought we have a huge year has been awful most of the year outside the A&M game. The move to the 3-4 has adversly affectd him more than anybody else. He just can't shed a block and it's gotten to the point it looks like he doesn't even try half the time.

So against the run you've got safeties that aren't hard hitters and take bad angles, a ILB that can't get off a block, mdiocre DE's against the run and a redshirt freshman LB who has also been up and down. At some point it doesn't matter who is the coach and i think it's why you see us recruiting a crapload of JUCO at DE, LB and Safety.

BUT the one thing that is very apparent when watching the game is we don't fly to the ball and our front 7 are not physical and attacking. Some of that has to fall on the coaches b/c i refuse to believe the majority of our defensive players hate contact.

I'm honestly at a loss because the first half of the year we looked to at least be decent on defense, especially against the run. Hoped the secondary would get better over time but tonight was just pitiful.

[GTHOM]

Hell no. Sirmon is just going to be the next head to fall for Mullen. Mullen micromanages every thing and hes been more involved on D this year than ever. Take it for what its worth to you

[CadaverDawg]

Yes it is, bc he's in charge of the D. If our secondary was the only group sucking, it might be different...but Sirmon specializes in LB's and we handed him Chicken salad at that position, and somehow he turned it into Chicken shit. He was a bad hire, and I don't see how anyone can blame anyone else.

[GTHOM]

Yes it is, bc he's in charge of the D. If our secondary was the only group sucking, it might be different...but Sirmon specializes in LB's and we handed him Chicken salad at that position, and somehow he turned it into Chicken shit. He was a bad hire, and I don't see how anyone can blame anyone else.

Yeah and the next DC Mullen gets will be blamed for it, he will throw them under the bus just like he did Geoff. Hence why no one wants to coach defense for him. The only good coach we have on D is TBuck. The rest are retreads that nobody else wanted. Hence we had to hire Sirmon to begin with. Mullen has no one to blame but himself

[Coursesuper]

Yeah and the next DC Mullen gets will be blamed for it, he will throw them under the bus just like he did Geoff. Hence why no one wants to coach defense for him. The only good coach we have on D is TBuck. The rest are retreads that nobody else wanted. Hence we had to hire Sirmon to begin with. Mullen has no one to blame but himself

This is the truth, Mullen has brought this on himself.

[MarketingBully]

Mullen needs to find a job somewhere else. Please someone else hire him.

[MarketingBully]

Mullen screws with the defense. I don't know how people can't see that.

[CadaverDawg]

Mullen needs to find a job somewhere else. Please someone else hire him.

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

[yjnkdawg]

Mullen, the assistant coaches, the players (especially the defensive players), need to watch the Vandy/OM game. Vandy didn't let the OM receivers run wide open like we do. They also hit hard and tackled and got in Patterson's head and frustrated him. Vandy's offense opened up. Mason game planned to win and not to play to keep from losing. Our offense played like they wanted to beat ARK, but the defense was questionable, other than a few players it appeared.

[yjnkdawg]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

I agree. Those who weren't there back then just don't really know how much MSU football has advanced.

[yjnkdawg]

Mullen screws with the defense. I don't know how people can't see that.

I agree. See TAMU game when he let Sirmon actually coach.

[msstate7]

I agree. See TAMU game when he let Sirmon actually coach.

aTm may be the worst team in the sec right now.

[msstate7]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

I want Peterson as TE coach next season, new oline coach, and a new 4-3 DC next season and Mullen as our HC.

[CadaverDawg]

I want Peterson as TE coach next season, new oline coach, and a new 4-3 DC next season and Mullen as our HC.

I agree. In order of urgency...

1. New DC
2. New DC
3. New DC

4. New OL coach


5. Peterson to TE coach

[GTHOM]

I want Peterson as TE coach next season, new oline coach, and a new 4-3 DC next season and Mullen as our HC.

Brad is going to TE or an on field job. I'd be surprised if the other two happen. The last one is sadly completely up to Mullen

[msstate7]

I agree. In order of urgency...

1. New DC
2. New DC
3. New DC

4. New OL coach


5. Peterson to TE coach

I'd move Peterson to #4. I think hevesy has done a pretty solid job this year; but we can't seem to get top recruits to play for him, so solid is best case scenario

[Noxdog]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

U know i'm usually on Mullen's side, but he has me wavering. I see a real lack of effort. It's very disconcerting.

[CadaverDawg]

U know i'm usually on Mullen's side, but he has me wavering. I see a real lack of effort. It's very disconcerting.

Oh I agree, I'm concerned as well...I just hate when people cherry pick things to further an agenda. In other words, if we had a top 5 SEC defense one year, and the worst SEC defense another, you can't just choose to say "Dan's always been too involved in the D, and it's killing us. He has to go". To me, that's not thinking clearly. Now, I DO agree that he has hurt us with his lack of keeping a DC for whatever the reasons, his friendship with Hev, his job chasing, and his lack of preparation in some huge games. He can't do this again next year, and changes need to be made at DC at least, and OL coach hopefully, to ease my concern some

[BayouDawg]

Careful what y'all wish for. Don't let a down year, a bad DC hire, and a group of message board posters who have an agenda make you forget what it was like when we had no QB's at MSU, and no offense, etc.

I'm not going to get in a pissing match...I'm just saying y'all just better make sure you're thinking things through. Carry on.

I get what you're saying, but at the same time if Dan does want out I think it's best for all parties if he is hired away.

[Noxdog]

Oh I agree, I'm concerned as well...I just hate when people cherry pick things to further an agenda. In other words, if we had a top 5 SEC defense one year, and the worst SEC defense another, you can't just choose to say "Dan's always been too involved in the D, and it's killing us. He has to go". To me, that's not thinking clearly. Now, I DO agree that he has hurt us with his lack of keeping a DC for whatever the reasons, his friendship with Hev, his job chasing, and his lack of preparation in some huge games. He can't do this again next year, and changes need to be made at DC at least, and OL coach hopefully, to ease my concern some

Yea, I agree. I'm with you on not throwing the baby out with the bath water, so to speak. Just don't see a lot of effort this year other than Fitz and some on the O.

Oh well, beat the bastards up north!