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    Bo Bounds show this morning with 2 great

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    1) Malik Dear - why is he not getting more touches?

    It's silly at this point that he is not our startin RB. If he "doesn't want to"... someone talk him into it this of season. This is ludicrous.

    2) State needs to hire Josh Morgan. Bounds didn't say "State" needs to. I'm adding that, but we need to snatch up all the "talent" at coaching that we can and Morgan is family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    Points.

    1) Malik Dear - why is he not getting more touches?

    It's silly at this point that he is not our startin RB. If he "doesn't want to"... someone talk him into it this of season. This is ludicrous.

    2) State needs to hire Josh Morgan. Bounds didn't say "State" needs to. I'm adding that, but we need to snatch up all the "talent" at coaching that we can and Morgan is family.

    1. I think Dear may have missed his window. Gibson & Hill are as good as Dear at RB & Williams is 90% of Dear at RB. At this point, I'd rather go with Gibson, Hill, & Williams & keep Dear in the slot with 4-5 motions into the backfield a game. Of course all this is looking towards 2017 because making moves for 2016 makes no sense

    2. I'd love to hire one or both of the Morgans to replace Brad Peterson when he gets promoted to TE coach after this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    1. I think Dear may have missed his window. Gibson & Hill are as good as Dear at RB & Williams is 90% of Dear at RB. At this point, I'd rather go with Gibson, Hill, & Williams & keep Dear in the slot with 4-5 motions into the backfield a game. Of course all this is looking towards 2017 because making moves for 2016 makes no sense

    2. I'd love to hire one or both of the Morgans to replace Brad Peterson when he gets promoted to TE coach after this season.
    I'm not sure where your #1 comes from. Dear has more potential at RB than any other player on our roster IMO. Hill hasn't even signed yet and haven't really seen that much of Gibson but Dear has that low center of mass that a lot of great RBs have. Williams has done OK but he doesn't have that going for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I'm not sure where your #1 comes from. Dear has more potential at RB than any other player on our roster IMO. Hill hasn't even signed yet and haven't really seen that much of Gibson but Dear has that low center of mass that a lot of great RBs have. Williams has done OK but he doesn't have that going for him.
    I hear you, but now your piling your best players at one position. Maybe Dear is the best of the bunch at RB, but getting Dear + the RBs on the field at the same time IMO is better

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    The problem is Dear doesn't even average 2 catches per game or 2 carries a game. That's on our sorry coaching. 20 touches all season is a disgrace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    1. Gibson & Hill are as good as Dear at RB & Williams is 90% of Dear at RB. At this point, I'd rather go with Gibson, Hill, & Williams & keep Dear in the slot with 4-5 motions into the backfield a game. Of course all this is looking towards 2017 because making moves for 2016 makes no sense
    If you're talking about Kylin Hill, he tweeted that he is having 2nd thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    If you're talking about Kylin Hill, he tweeted that he is having 2nd thoughts.
    Hasn't he done that several times...and yet, stayed committed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I hear you, but now your piling your best players at one position. Maybe Dear is the best of the bunch at RB, but getting Dear + the RBs on the field at the same time IMO is better
    Mixon and Thomas should be our slot guys going forward so I see no reason we can't start moving Dear into RB. Heck, we might as well move Myles back to slot where he was effective. He sure as heck isn't doing anything as an outside WR. I know we plan to bring in Hill in this class but we lose Shumpert and I don't really see Lee sticking around if he can't get any carries to speak of as a RSO.

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    The only way Hill gets more than 10 carries next season is if we have a new coach

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    Malik Dear aint playing RB, doesnt matter who the coach is

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTHOM View Post
    Malik Dear aint playing RB, doesnt matter who the coach is
    Who the hell does he think he is? This is the SEC. He will play wherever the coach tells him to play or he will sit his ass on the bench. If we have players telling coaches where they are going to play that explains a lot of our problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Who the hell does he think he is? This is the SEC. He will play wherever the coach tells him to play or he will sit his ass on the bench. If we have players telling coaches where they are going to play that explains a lot of our problems.
    I agree to an extent. Its easy to say that but when the kid is good enough to help you somewhere else you cant wad him up and throw him away just because he doesnt wanna play where you want him too. I actually think Mullen has handled it pretty well, he could use more touches

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder View Post
    If you're talking about Kylin Hill, he tweeted that he is having 2nd thoughts.
    Yeah, I bet your an MSU fan***

    Anyone who has been paying attention would know what's going on here

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    I've already said this recently but I'm pretty sure I remember an interview in the past year in which Dear said he'd play wherever the coaches need him to. Grain of salt, ect.

    Also, multiple people have said not to pay attention to Kylin Hill's twitter if you don't like emotional roller coasters.

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    A kid has to want to play rb and dear had no desire to play rb. He hates contact period end of story. So he either plays slot or he quits and its that simple with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    A kid has to want to play rb and dear had no desire to play rb. He hates contact period end of story. So he either plays slot or he quits and its that simple with him.
    If he is going to quit if the coach puts him at tailback he does not need to be on our football team. I have no clue if you actually know this or if this is just he said she said, but that is a no go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    If he is going to quit if the coach puts him at tailback he does not need to be on our football team. I have no clue if you actually know this or if this is just he said she said, but that is a no go.
    So would you prefer to recruit him at one position and then tell him to play the other position that he doesn't want to play? If you were hired to do one job then got there and they told you that you were cleaning toilets, are you supposed to just shut up and do your job? In the real world you could immediately look for something else but in college football you basically lose 1/4 of your career and run the risk of not having a chance at the NFL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe View Post
    So would you prefer to recruit him at one position and then tell him to play the other position that he doesn't want to play? If you were hired to do one job then got there and they told you that you were cleaning toilets, are you supposed to just shut up and do your job? In the real world you could immediately look for something else but in college football you basically lose 1/4 of your career and run the risk of not having a chance at the NFL.
    It's pretty easy to say "Malik, we tried you at receiver for 2 years just like we told you we would during recruitment. That is not working out and we need you at tailback. That is what is best for the team and your future as a football player." He will never play wide receiver in the NFL, but he has a shot as a tailback. Anyone that tells him differently is pumping smoke up his ass. If you tell him that and he refuses, then we have a huge disconnect between our players and coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningIsRelentless View Post
    A kid has to want to play rb and dear had no desire to play rb. He hates contact period end of story. So he either plays slot or he quits and its that simple with him.
    The dude is a bowling ball and he hates contact? Does that mean he will not run routes over the middle of the field either?? Only at MSU can we have such dilemmas. Heck, WRs can take some of the nastiest shots from defenders in a game although granted they don't take the number of them RBs do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    It's pretty easy to say "Malik, we tried you at receiver for 2 years just like we told you we would during recruitment. That is not working out and we need you at tailback. That is what is best for the team and your future as a football player." He will never play wide receiver in the NFL, but he has a shot as a tailback. Anyone that tells him differently is pumping smoke up his ass. If you tell him that and he refuses, then we have a huge disconnect between our players and coaches.
    I believe we have handled it better than most coaches. Do we know that it is Dear saying he wants to stay at slot or Mullen saying that he doesn't pass block well enough to get on the field at RB.

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