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Have no clue why the hate on Cohen unless those folks are experts on being a qualified AD. Cohen ain't one to back down, ask O'Sullivan.
Btw, for all you hatters on Cohen saying your done with Msu, I wear XL shirts and collect bulldogs, let me know and I will give an address so you can send your "Bully stuff", I will always be a True Dawg, regardless, I've seen much worse things happening at Msu.
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Ole Miss idiots thought Freeze was a lazy hire too.
And then......
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Originally Posted by
basedog
Have no clue why the hate on Cohen unless those folks are experts on being a qualified AD. Cohen ain't one to back down, ask O'Sullivan.
Btw, for all you hatters on Cohen saying your done with Msu, I wear XL shirts and collect bulldogs, let me know and I will give an address so you can send your "Bully stuff", I will always be a True Dawg, regardless, I've seen much worse things happening at Msu.
Was about to say O'Sullivan to Starkville*** and then read your post.
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If Cohen does end up as AD. Who could this new "Very Impressive" coaching hire be?
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Moves like this are why our athletic department is near the bottom of the SEC historically speaking. Lazy hire if true.
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Originally Posted by
gtowndawg
I know it's not a popular stance but I'm intrigued by this. He's extremely smart and HIGHLY competitive. I think we need someone hard nosed that is willing to support his coaches but also willing to have a come to Jesus meeting quick when things get off the rails. As long as he is willing to let his staff handle things he can not (marketing, etc) I'm willing to learn more.
This.
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I think what's funny is that there were some saying Stricklin betrayed us and we need someone loyal and then they don't like Cohen.
I'm not sure, regardless of AD experience, if there is another available person that will take MSU athletics more personally and passionately than Cohen. We want a hardass. That's Cohen. We want a loyal person. That's Cohen. Only thing we don't like is that he has no AD experience. But we trust Keenum in this regard except on Cohen??
Lot of people not making sense in my opinion.
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Butch Thompson would be a serious option, but I think he will be #3 or #4 on the list. Cohen will still have a presence in the program to say the least. Hire Butch as HC, go get the best hitting coach money can buy and make him Associate HC, with Cohen as a sort of mentor to look to.
Wouldn't be surprised to see it play out this way if we miss on a few bigger names. Baseball and Basketball will be fine with Cohen as AD, the first big question for Cohen will be what does he do with Mullen? I have a feeling that that question will already be internally answered if/when Cohen is hired as AD.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I think what's funny is that there were some saying Stricklin betrayed us and we need someone loyal and then they don't like Cohen.
I'm not sure, regardless of AD experience, if there is another available person that will take MSU athletics more personally and passionately than Cohen. We want a hardass. That's Cohen. We want a loyal person. That's Cohen. Only thing we don't like is that he has no AD experience. But we trust Keenum in this regard except on Cohen??
Lot of people not making sense in my opinion.
If we got Theo Epstein as our AD, half the board would be upset it wasn't someone with college experience
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Originally Posted by
DeviousDawg
Butch Thompson would be a serious option, but I think he will be #3 or #4 on the list. Cohen will still have a presence in the program to say the least. Hire Butch as HC, go get the best hitting coach money can buy and make him Associate HC, with Cohen as a sort of mentor to look to.
Wouldn't be surprised to see it play out this way if we miss on a few bigger names. Baseball and Basketball will be fine with Cohen as AD, the first big question for Cohen will be what does he do with Mullen? I have a feeling that that question will already be internally answered if/when Cohen is hired as AD.
That's a horseshit scenario. Oh and Cohen and Dan were friends so we can go ahead and ruin ourselves in two sports while we're at it.
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If that comes to pass it is a very unimpressive change, nothing for the better comes out of this.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
I think what's funny is that there were some saying Stricklin betrayed us and we need someone loyal and then they don't like Cohen.
I'm not sure, regardless of AD experience, if there is another available person that will take MSU athletics more personally and passionately than Cohen. We want a hardass. That's Cohen. We want a loyal person. That's Cohen. Only thing we don't like is that he has no AD experience. But we trust Keenum in this regard except on Cohen??
Lot of people not making sense in my opinion.
Not to mention that he will still be very involved in the baseball program. I mean, think about it. He's still involved with it, but his meddling is removed from the gameday coaching. Win Win right?
Sort of like Bill Parcells, Cohen is just one of those guys who's presence helps success come.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
That's a horseshit scenario. Oh and Cohen and Dan were friends so we can go ahead and ruin ourselves in two sports while we're at it.
I've casually noticed that you want to act like you know a lot more about baseball than you actually do. I respect your love for the game and like to read your baseball recaps, but sometimes you just talk out of your ass.
Butch will not be the first choice, but you have to be an idiot with no foresight to not like him as a candidate. He is one of the best recruiters and pitching coaches in the country, with years of experience at Mississippi State as a coach and a recruiter, as well as good relationships with current players. If Cohen moves to AD and you don't want our baseball program to take any kind of step back, Butch Thompson is your guy. He's not the sexiest hire, and as I have said there will be bigger names ahead of him, but if it does happen I will be pleased, considering the circumstances.
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Is the "search firm" Larry Templeton? Cohen to AD is an LT quality decision. An athletic department is a business nowadays. We need someone with business experience. I'll give Cohen a fair chance to prove he's capable, but anyone with a functioning brain should be skeptical if this indeed happens. This just reeks of classic Em Ess Yoo inbreeding. And that's worked out SO well for us in our history.******
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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What is wrong with Cohen? If we get some up and comer AD from a small school, they will bolt the first chance they get. I think Cohen is an intriguing choice in the fact that he is driven by winning and a loyal guy who is definitely not going to bolt. There are also great examples of successful college baseball coaches becoming great ADs including one of the best all time in Skip Bertman.
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Because cohen has never managed a 100 million dollar school. If he wants to be AD so bad, go cut your teeth at a smaller school. We are in the freaking SEC with a 100 million dollar athletic budget. We need someone experienced that knows how to manage it. Jesus you people will defend whatever move MSU does even if it is a terrible one. LT hire describes it perfectly.
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What the hiring of John Cohen as AD would mean to me is that out university cares so little about athletics and is so lazy that they wouldn't take the time and put forth the effort to hire a trained professional to a job they have been grooming themselves to for once they decided to go into athletics administration. This smacks of the back door politics that gave us the Shira, Charlie Scott, LT years so we will reap what we sow on this one.
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Originally Posted by
MarketingBully
What is wrong with Cohen? If we get some up and comer AD from a small school, they will bolt the first chance they get. I think Cohen is an intriguing choice in the fact that he is driven by winning and a loyal guy who is definitely not going to bolt. There are also great examples of successful college baseball coaches becoming great ADs including one of the best all time in Skip Bertman.
They'll bolt? Where? In case you haven't noticed, we're one of the "haves" in college athletics now. We are a $100M annual budget SEC athletic department. There isn't much going "up" from there. Maybe you missed the reports that there are some serious "name" ADs who want our job. Name the last time that was the case for us. Ditch the MSU PTSD and understand we are a desirable destination now.
It's the roller coaster of hope that this program keeps us on that makes it hell being a State fan. - CadaverDawg, 10/15/22

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Originally Posted by
DeviousDawg
I've casually noticed that you want to act like you know a lot more about baseball than you actually do. I respect your love for the game and like to read your baseball recaps, but sometimes you just talk out of your ass.
Butch will not be the first choice, but you have to be an idiot with no foresight to not like him as a candidate. He is one of the best recruiters and pitching coaches in the country, with years of experience at Mississippi State as a coach and a recruiter, as well as good relationships with current players. If Cohen moves to AD and you don't want our baseball program to take any kind of step back, Butch Thompson is your guy. He's not the sexiest hire, and as I have said there will be bigger names ahead of him, but if it does happen I will be pleased, considering the circumstances.
And I casually noticed that you said that Cohen's replacement would be a home run hire. And then you mention a coach who isn't as good as Cohen. And then you are trying to blow sunshine up everyone's skirts like this is the best thing ever. And yes I did notice that you said that he would be our fourth choice.
I'm calling a spade a spade. If we have AD candidates that are experienced there is no reason to take a chance on Cohen. If you think that's awesome your wrong. It's a big mistake. And it will hurts across the board in all sports.
Butch Thompson = Pat McMahon 2.0
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
Is the "search firm" Larry Templeton? Cohen to AD is an LT quality decision. An athletic department is a business nowadays. We need someone with business experience. I'll give Cohen a fair chance to prove he's capable, but anyone with a functioning brain should be skeptical if this indeed happens. This just reeks of classic Em Ess Yoo inbreeding. And that's worked out SO well for us in our history.******
I guess you don't mind our AD job being viewed nationally as a stepping stone where we take one step forward and two steps back. As much as people say they like Byrne, he left us what in two years or so? Stricklin left us and he's a freaking MSU grad and we even were close to matching what Florida offered. I don't like the perception of being a stepping stone job. I like the idea of Cohen especially if he brings in a very big splash baseball hire to replace him.
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