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My dream scenario is to turn on espn in January and hear about a Texas type job coming open and pundits talking about our new coach who agreed to his deal in November and that if he had waited he would've landed that job. If we are going to fire him, I think we have to do it soon or wait until end of '17. We won't be able to hit a home run hire this offseason with the names that will likely be looking as well.
But beyond that, however we do it, I want mullen ****ing axed. It's one thing to have down years. It's another to lose the team and fans. No one on that sideline gives a ****, why should fans.
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We won't fire Dan- but we can sure as hell make it look like he resigned on his own.
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Originally Posted by
Homedawg
While I have no issue w him being fired, I get amused by statements like this, unless you are one of the ones who is going to find his almost 10 million $ payoff. Shit ain't free. And again. He's not getting fired.
I can't pay the whole thing off but they have my permission to use my entire Bulldog Club donation even though that will barely put a dent in it.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This is what I have been talking about when I say that we have to look at the whole picture when someone spouts off about 19 wins the past two years.
If you didn't hear we were number 1
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Originally Posted by
Taog Redloh
I'm still on the Mullen train. I think it's more a talent issue than coaching, but of course they are his recruits. He'll get a year to correct this. He'll either rise or tank IMO.
He's not getting fired this year. We've made our bed here, and we got to lie in it. If he tanks we should go get Art Briles. I don't think anyone hires him this year anyway.
JUCOs and our development of young players esp fitz will tell the tale for Mullen. Our JUCOs have to pan out next season
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Wonder what its going to be this week. Every time those of us who have been fed up for some time complain...these guys jump to Mullen's defense and call us crazy. How about now, fellas? Y'all still on board with Mullen?
You'll prob hear them admit they were wrong the same time the "far coinz" crowd admits they were wrong.
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Isn't it possible we could offer him a settlement if he "resigns"? He wants out anyway. Perhaps a lump-sum offer well South of the buyout would do it.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 10-08-2016 at 05:04 PM.
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
Isn't it possible we could offer him a settlement if hen "resigns"? He wants out anyway. Perhaps a lump-sum offer well South of the buyout would do it.
Why would Mullen do that? He'll get it all or the buyout if he stays. He's still young so he'll have time to coach elsewhere if he chooses
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We won't fire Dan- but we can sure as hell make it look like he resigned on his own.
He is the deal. Mullen realized last year that he wasn't getting a new job. Then our admin did not bow down to his demands and as u know Mullen is vindictive as hell. (See how he has done dear over driving back to jxn to see his family during off season). Mullen decided after all this he didn't give a sh$t, we haven't recruited to our needs cause I thought I would be out of here by now. By him packing it in he can get axed with a buyout, sit a year and a school like Houston, NC State, etc...he can get back in showing other schools "what all he did at po ole MSU" and look at how they have fallen once I left. He is checked out, done, toast all because if he doesn't get what he wants he pouts. Reflect back, as long as we were building a stadium and new athletic building he was "straining" hard and produced
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Why would Mullen do that? He'll get it all or the buyout if he stays. He's still young so he'll have time to coach elsewhere if he chooses
If gets the full amount then he isn't allowed to work anywhere else, not even as an announcer to keep his name out there. Take a payout which would be less and he could work somewhere else and have the buyout in the bank. This would also keep his name out there for the bigger jobs.
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Originally Posted by
ILOATHEBears
He is the deal. Mullen realized last year that he wasn't getting a new job. Then our admin did not bow down to his demands and as u know Mullen is vindictive as hell. (See how he has done dear over driving back to jxn to see his family during off season). Mullen decided after all this he didn't give a sh$t, we haven't recruited to our needs cause I thought I would be out of here by now. By him packing it in he can get axed with a buyout, sit a year and a school like Houston, NC State, etc...he can get back in showing other schools "what all he did at po ole MSU" and look at how they have fallen once I left. He is checked out, done, toast all because if he doesn't get what he wants he pouts. Reflect back, as long as we were building a stadium and new athletic building he was "straining" hard and produced
That makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by
Taog Redloh
I'm still on the Mullen train. I think it's more a talent issue than coaching, but of course they are his recruits. He'll get a year to correct this. He'll either rise or tank IMO.
He's not getting fired this year. We've made our bed here, and we got to lie in it. If he tanks we should go get Art Briles. I don't think anyone hires him this year anyway.
I think Mullen has just missed on Fitz & Staley, missed on his kickers and been way too stubborn at OL coach. He corrects these three things we are a different team.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I think Mullen has just missed on Fitz & Staley, missed on his kickers and been way too stubborn at OL coach. He corrects these three things we are a different team.
WAY too late for that. Mullen, and we are reaping what he sowed. He has a fatal flaws...stubborness and unwarranted arrogance.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 10-08-2016 at 05:36 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
I think Mullen has just missed on Fitz & Staley, missed on his kickers and been way too stubborn at OL coach. He corrects these three things we are a different team.
What about the DB's?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
JUCOs and our development of young players esp fitz will tell the tale for Mullen. Our JUCOs have to pan out next season
The fact that we are having to sign so many JUCO's is a problem.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
The fact that we are having to sign so many JUCO's is a problem.
Yeah... it's also a sign we realize there's a problem and trying to fix it
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Yeah... it's also a sign we realize there's a problem and trying to fix it
Kind of like 2002-2003? You have to have a strong locker room for that many Jucos to not cause issues.
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Originally Posted by
Tbonewannabe
Kind of like 2002-2003? You have to have a strong locker room for that many Jucos to not cause issues.
Or we could hit lightening in a bottle. Our juco commits do have nice offers, so we aren't just getting anyone. I'm certainly not guaranteeing they work out, but I definitely think taking them is the right call
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Or we could hit lightening in a bottle. Our juco commits do have nice offers, so we aren't just getting anyone. I'm certainly not guaranteeing they work out, but I definitely think taking them is the right call
Rankin also had nice offers and we saw how he has turned out. Almost every Juco we have gotten the last couple of years has either redshirted or played very little the first year. Slay who might make a Pro Bowl this year hardly got on the field his first year. If we expect Jucos to play next year then we are expecting Mullen to change how he has handled them for most of his head coaching career. It could happen but we are also still waiting on Mullen to stop running our 150 lb RB up the gut who averages 1 yard after contact.
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The DL jucos we have committed now are all SEC talent and can change games.
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